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<blockquote data-quote="Irlo" data-source="post: 8706057" data-attributes="member: 7028372"><p>No, I loved both SW and ESB as a kid and I still enjoy them. Neither of them has well-written, developed characters.</p><p></p><p>I can't really address the details of the Star Wars debates, since I'm far removed from them. I didn't like any the movies after ESB. I saw the first two films in the prequel trilogy and the first two films in the Disney sequels. I disliked the Disney films less than the prequels. There's a lot there not to like (and I'm for those who like them there's a lot there to like -- not my cup of tea). If your negative opinions of the films were dismissed as racist, that's a lousy experience I'm sure. And that fan behavior is toxic.</p><p></p><p>I was peripherally exposed to some nasty comments about the casting of the Disney movies, so I know that at least some of criticism was born out of racism and misogyny. </p><p></p><p></p><p>This bit is of concern to me. The actor was not cast soley because he was black with no other consideration. Why would anyone think that? Would they have said that a white actor in that role had been cast soley because he was white? (Hint: No, they would not.) He's a decent actor in an action movie. They didn't just pluck a random person off the street. There were absolutely other considerations. It's easy for me to read this as apparent racism, even if that's not the intent. I hope I'm making some sense here.</p><p></p><p>The character might fall flat for most of us, but that's on the writers and the directors. Still no reason to disparage the writers or directors. Plenty of people liked the movie.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Irlo, post: 8706057, member: 7028372"] No, I loved both SW and ESB as a kid and I still enjoy them. Neither of them has well-written, developed characters. I can't really address the details of the Star Wars debates, since I'm far removed from them. I didn't like any the movies after ESB. I saw the first two films in the prequel trilogy and the first two films in the Disney sequels. I disliked the Disney films less than the prequels. There's a lot there not to like (and I'm for those who like them there's a lot there to like -- not my cup of tea). If your negative opinions of the films were dismissed as racist, that's a lousy experience I'm sure. And that fan behavior is toxic. I was peripherally exposed to some nasty comments about the casting of the Disney movies, so I know that at least some of criticism was born out of racism and misogyny. This bit is of concern to me. The actor was not cast soley because he was black with no other consideration. Why would anyone think that? Would they have said that a white actor in that role had been cast soley because he was white? (Hint: No, they would not.) He's a decent actor in an action movie. They didn't just pluck a random person off the street. There were absolutely other considerations. It's easy for me to read this as apparent racism, even if that's not the intent. I hope I'm making some sense here. The character might fall flat for most of us, but that's on the writers and the directors. Still no reason to disparage the writers or directors. Plenty of people liked the movie. [/QUOTE]
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