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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8707579" data-attributes="member: 18">I feel like we're seeing it with the MCU these days, though it took a surprisingly long time to really get toxic. There always used to be the odd &quot;the comics were better!&quot; guy (I mean, sometimes they definitely were, but w/e), or weird hyperfan, but now it's like there's a two kinds of really toxic &quot;fan&quot; emerging in the MCU community. Firstly ultrafans who think everything Disney/Marvel do with the MCU is great, and get very very angry with people who disagree (and usually start claiming they're some kind of hater or even bigot), but secondly, I dunno exactly how to call them, but people who liked everything roughly up to and including Endgame (and still like stuff involving characters from before that to some extent), and now are just more and more deeply disenchanted with the MCU and can be very weirdly negative in their opinions about most newer stuff - you see a lot of weird rationalizations about why they hate stuff (like that Moon Knight was &quot;generic&quot;, which I mean, there's a lot you could critique about MK, but &quot;generic&quot; doesn't really land, given how wacky it was). Both together are making it hard to even read other people's MCU discussions, because you have to trawl so much fanboying and so much &quot;Ugh this new stuff all SUXXXX&quot;.(And then you have people like me: &quot;Wake me up when the bring the X-Men back!&quot;, but I'm not a big MCU opinion-haver because of that.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8707579, member: 18"] I feel like we're seeing it with the MCU these days, though it took a surprisingly long time to really get toxic. There always used to be the odd "the comics were better!" guy (I mean, sometimes they definitely were, but w/e), or weird hyperfan, but now it's like there's a two kinds of really toxic "fan" emerging in the MCU community. Firstly ultrafans who think everything Disney/Marvel do with the MCU is great, and get very very angry with people who disagree (and usually start claiming they're some kind of hater or even bigot), but secondly, I dunno exactly how to call them, but people who liked everything roughly up to and including Endgame (and still like stuff involving characters from before that to some extent), and now are just more and more deeply disenchanted with the MCU and can be very weirdly negative in their opinions about most newer stuff - you see a lot of weird rationalizations about why they hate stuff (like that Moon Knight was "generic", which I mean, there's a lot you could critique about MK, but "generic" doesn't really land, given how wacky it was). Both together are making it hard to even read other people's MCU discussions, because you have to trawl so much fanboying and so much "Ugh this new stuff all SUXXXX". (And then you have people like me: "Wake me up when the bring the X-Men back!", but I'm not a big MCU opinion-haver because of that.) [/QUOTE]

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