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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 8707870" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Leaving aside that the writing was terrible, which isn't the fault of the actors - some of whom I've really liked in other roles, the thing that gets me is that I've always felt that distaff characters were inherently sexist. The feel to me like the worst impulses of the Silver Age comic books, where they run out of ideas completely and then introduce the female counterpart of the hero. Those characters are always inherently subordinate to the originals. Supergirl is the female superman, not a character who was initially a character in her own right.</p><p></p><p>So while I accept that for historical reasons we may have to accept a distaff like character like Supergirl even though it's not a perfect situation, and do our best to try to make her a character a stands on her own and not merely the female Superman with fan service for Superman fans, what I don't accept is that creating modern distaff characters is anything but sexist in the first place. We shouldn't repeat mistakes of the past that we know our mistakes. We can create new characters and new roles that happen to be racially diverse. We don't have to, and we shouldn't - as moral imperative - be creating roles that are 'the girl superman' or 'the black superman' as if doing so was anything but the opposite of being respectful.</p><p></p><p>I don't understand how we got to the point that feminists were defending distaff ghostbusters characters as anything but a repulsive idea.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 8707870, member: 4937"] Leaving aside that the writing was terrible, which isn't the fault of the actors - some of whom I've really liked in other roles, the thing that gets me is that I've always felt that distaff characters were inherently sexist. The feel to me like the worst impulses of the Silver Age comic books, where they run out of ideas completely and then introduce the female counterpart of the hero. Those characters are always inherently subordinate to the originals. Supergirl is the female superman, not a character who was initially a character in her own right. So while I accept that for historical reasons we may have to accept a distaff like character like Supergirl even though it's not a perfect situation, and do our best to try to make her a character a stands on her own and not merely the female Superman with fan service for Superman fans, what I don't accept is that creating modern distaff characters is anything but sexist in the first place. We shouldn't repeat mistakes of the past that we know our mistakes. We can create new characters and new roles that happen to be racially diverse. We don't have to, and we shouldn't - as moral imperative - be creating roles that are 'the girl superman' or 'the black superman' as if doing so was anything but the opposite of being respectful. I don't understand how we got to the point that feminists were defending distaff ghostbusters characters as anything but a repulsive idea. [/QUOTE]
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