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<blockquote data-quote="BB Shockwave" data-source="post: 8708414" data-attributes="member: 6799257"><p>That's an inherently flawed concept, because of the little matter of COPYRIGHT. </p><p>If, say, I dislike new Star Wars and Star Trek, there is no way for me and other disgruntled fans to fund a different sequel trilogy and hire Mark Hamill and Harrison Ford and re-create Carrie Fisher from CGI because Disney would sue our asses.</p><p>And I am well aware that there are 'almost but not quite' copycats around. Transformers have "third party" toys (a nice name for knockoffs), several miniature companies make "not-quite Space Marines/Necrons/Tyranids" that skirt the edges of copyright law, and The Orville basically exists because Seth MacFarlane wanted to create a new season of Star Trek The Next Generation and since Paramount did not OK, that , he just made his own knockoff Star Trek show, with blackjack and hookers, as Bender would say. </p><p></p><p>But these things are not the same, they are just similar. Would you have told someone who disliked 4E D&D to just go play Pathfinder instead? Maybe in the early years, Pathfinder was just 3.5E in a different universe, but since then even before PF 2.0 came out, it has become incredibly different with character classes and races and rules that D&D never had. And that's not mentioning all the races and characters and locations Paizo cannot use because WotC owns them. You could play it that way, but you would always feel that you are just playing a knockoff of the product you really wanted from the original creators in the first place.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Thanks! Exactly that!</p><p>Though I have hopes for Planescape to be more or less what it used to be - perhaps with some regulations now changed to optional rules. Ravenloft sure was quite neutered in places, but even that product made it clear you cannot save or redeem a Darklord. I am expecting Spelljammer and Planescape will be more close to the original settings.</p><p>What I worry about is Dark Sun, if and when that gets rebooted you know it will be neutered. Slavery, cannibalism, oppression, lack of real deities, making it almost impossible to play a wizard and not get stoned to death once you are discovered, not to mention the survival mechanics... I think most of that will be thrown out. Guess we will see, as Spelljammer's miniature set has a lot of Dark Sun creatures.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BB Shockwave, post: 8708414, member: 6799257"] That's an inherently flawed concept, because of the little matter of COPYRIGHT. If, say, I dislike new Star Wars and Star Trek, there is no way for me and other disgruntled fans to fund a different sequel trilogy and hire Mark Hamill and Harrison Ford and re-create Carrie Fisher from CGI because Disney would sue our asses. And I am well aware that there are 'almost but not quite' copycats around. Transformers have "third party" toys (a nice name for knockoffs), several miniature companies make "not-quite Space Marines/Necrons/Tyranids" that skirt the edges of copyright law, and The Orville basically exists because Seth MacFarlane wanted to create a new season of Star Trek The Next Generation and since Paramount did not OK, that , he just made his own knockoff Star Trek show, with blackjack and hookers, as Bender would say. But these things are not the same, they are just similar. Would you have told someone who disliked 4E D&D to just go play Pathfinder instead? Maybe in the early years, Pathfinder was just 3.5E in a different universe, but since then even before PF 2.0 came out, it has become incredibly different with character classes and races and rules that D&D never had. And that's not mentioning all the races and characters and locations Paizo cannot use because WotC owns them. You could play it that way, but you would always feel that you are just playing a knockoff of the product you really wanted from the original creators in the first place. Thanks! Exactly that! Though I have hopes for Planescape to be more or less what it used to be - perhaps with some regulations now changed to optional rules. Ravenloft sure was quite neutered in places, but even that product made it clear you cannot save or redeem a Darklord. I am expecting Spelljammer and Planescape will be more close to the original settings. What I worry about is Dark Sun, if and when that gets rebooted you know it will be neutered. Slavery, cannibalism, oppression, lack of real deities, making it almost impossible to play a wizard and not get stoned to death once you are discovered, not to mention the survival mechanics... I think most of that will be thrown out. Guess we will see, as Spelljammer's miniature set has a lot of Dark Sun creatures. [/QUOTE]
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