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<blockquote data-quote="BB Shockwave" data-source="post: 8708430" data-attributes="member: 6799257">LOL! I have actually seen that thrown into the face of the whole hungarian transformers fandom almost 2 decades ago, and the irony is, it was done by a Star Wars über-fan.Basically he joined our forums and then started rather shamelessly marketing stuff for sale. He would buy some new toy from Japan or the USA, showcase the photos, sing praises of how much he likes that toy... then sell it a month later saying &quot;ah it was enough to have it for that long&quot;.That was not the issue though, but his attitude. When he was showcasing his latest Revoltech figure, he got it from me and most others that we are just not interested in buying Transformers that cannot transform.That prompted a whole tirade out of him, which basically boiled down to &quot;You are not REAL FANS then, because real fans buy ANYTHING the company makes in that franchise that has that logo on it.&quot; He was astounded when people told him that many G1 fans are not fans of Beast Wars and vice versa, and won't collect those toys. He then threw a hissy fit saying we are unprofessional fans (LOL) and quit. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> I remember it to this day, because same as you, I keep seeing this &quot;you must like and buy everything the company makes, or you are not a REAL FAN!&quot; argument even today.But it's still not the same as D&amp;D. There are no Mind Flayers in Pathfinder, Drows do not worship Lolth, Elminster or Mordenkainen do not exist, most of the pantheon of gods save for the ones derived from real mythology are different, etc. And that's just without mentioning the myriad new classes Paizo created over the years.I enjoy Pathfinder's lore and their adventures, but they are NOT D&amp;D. They started out as a copycat and evolved into doing their own thing, which I respect, but they are not a replacement for me for D&amp;D.&nbsp; Same as how Starfinder is not Spelljammer.So for me, it is good that I actually like 5E, because otherwise, I would not have anything to turn to.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BB Shockwave, post: 8708430, member: 6799257"] LOL! I have actually seen that thrown into the face of the whole hungarian transformers fandom almost 2 decades ago, and the irony is, it was done by a Star Wars über-fan. Basically he joined our forums and then started rather shamelessly marketing stuff for sale. He would buy some new toy from Japan or the USA, showcase the photos, sing praises of how much he likes that toy... then sell it a month later saying "ah it was enough to have it for that long". That was not the issue though, but his attitude. When he was showcasing his latest Revoltech figure, he got it from me and most others that we are just not interested in buying Transformers that cannot transform. That prompted a whole tirade out of him, which basically boiled down to [I]"You are not REAL FANS[/I] [I]then, because real fans buy ANYTHING the company makes in that franchise that has that logo on it."[/I] He was astounded when people told him that many G1 fans are not fans of Beast Wars and vice versa, and won't collect those toys. He then threw a hissy fit saying we are unprofessional fans (LOL) and quit. :D I remember it to this day, because same as you, I keep seeing this "you must like and buy everything the company makes, or you are not a REAL FAN!" argument even today. But it's still not the same as D&D. There are no Mind Flayers in Pathfinder, Drows do not worship Lolth, Elminster or Mordenkainen do not exist, most of the pantheon of gods save for the ones derived from real mythology are different, etc. And that's just without mentioning the myriad new classes Paizo created over the years. I enjoy Pathfinder's lore and their adventures, but they are NOT D&D. They started out as a copycat and evolved into doing their own thing, which I respect, but they are not a replacement for me for D&D. Same as how Starfinder is not Spelljammer. So for me, it is good that I actually like 5E, because otherwise, I would not have anything to turn to. [/QUOTE]

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