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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8708717" data-attributes="member: 18">To me personally it's not hyperbole. But I enjoy this particular kind of grimy 1970s cinema, and seeing it just reused without injecting anything new (even the basic aesthetic seemed to be a simple attempt to look at '70s as possible) just really didn't work for me. And the Batman elements - like I can easily see a good serious Batman movie (the recent one is actually my favourite but that's in part because it's utter "pulp" in the best sense - rather than "serious" - also they bribed me with Nirvana!) - they just made me giggle and made it all seem like hilarious deadpan parody rather than adding to it.And the DALL-E comparison is particularly how I feel. If you look at the better stuff DALL-E has done, where it's been given a detailed description of period and style, and has just done one image (rather than the 3x3 grid format), what I'm seeing there is the same sort of strong but rote and nothing-to-say grasp on the aesthetics of a period or style. I genuinely think we'll see a DALL-E style AI in the next 10-20 years which can do similar with movies. They'll be mostly nonsensical at first but I bet with tight parameters, if we're all still here in 2042 we'll see an AI-generated movie that's like, 95% believable as a real movie (and probably better written/more sane than some '90s and '00s action movies!).Now to be clear, I don't actually hate The Joker. For me it's like 6/10 movie, which is still vastly better than say The Eternals, or sorry Sam Raimi, The Multiverse of Madness (what a mess!). They really land the aesthetic, for example. It'd be much worse if they tried the 1970s aesthetic and failed, or if instead of being utterly derivative of Scorsese in a way that's rote but does understand the movies, was superficial and didn't understand the movies. Rote repetition with simple understanding is better than actively "not getting it".I don't critique anyone who likes the movie unless it's because they simplistically think The Joker is a "good person" or "brilliant revolutionary" or similar, not a literal lunatic who happened to be in the right place at the right time - just one shaped by society's failures (and thus somewhat sympathetic). But I feel like despite fears beforehand, very few people had the "What a cool guy!!!" takeaway. Fewer than with typical Joker portrayals, even though this one was more sympathetic.Just want to say to anyone who thinks you said this to me too much or patronized me or something, nope, you said this exactly the right number of times to ensure I "got it", so thank you lol! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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