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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FoxWander" data-source="post: 77578" data-attributes="member: 1356">Wow, feedback so quick and all but ignored int the General forum. Have to remeber to post my weird ideas here from now on. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />Fade- Yeah your right about the Magic Mouth thing. Gotta think of a way around that. Think Message or Whispering Wind would work?. Message isn't illusion so it makes real sound, so does WW. Maybe a higher level Magic Mouth that COULD say command words? Sounds like a reasonable idea. Think how useful that'd be as a burglar alarm if you combined it with a wand you had made. Definitely a good idea. Any suggestions on what level it's be? Also about the not selling the AutoRam. As I said, I'm not trying to actually stock a store with these things. That was just my post title to try and get people interested. The title in this forum seems alot better. Besides, if you WERE to make such a store, I'm sure a spell could also be created to transfer 'ownership' of a spell like that. Or it could probably be done as simple an enchanted item without too much of a difference in XP cost between enchantment and just casting Permanency.Whatisitgoodfor- Ouch, stop making posts like that! My head hurts just trying to think of the physics involved in such a thing.But on a related note, I have a new idea- "The Shrink Item GUN".Its along the same lines as the AutoRam but smaller. You get a small rod, say 6" by 1/2", with a Permanent Shrink Item and put it inside a tube (the barrel of the gun) that is just wider and longer than it is. Attach it somehow to the rear of the barrel, magnets should do the trick, that way it'll stay inside whether its shrunk or not. Now whenever you say the command word you have an instantaneously expanding ram inside the barrel, effectively an explosive force. Now you simply put a bullet in front of it, or if you don't like the idea of  'gun', put a crossbow bolt in front of it. Now my question is- How much damage would the thing do? According to the spell description, or at least the Glove of Storing which is based off the spell, it shrinks and unshrinks "instantly". What kind of force is that going to put on a projectile? Anyone got a real loose 'physics' guesstimate? I'd think at least equal to a modern handgun, and go with the 1d10 for pistols in the DMG. Anyone else have thoughts on this? What I especially like about this is that it could be engineered to avoid Dispel Magic 'misfires' by simply constructing it so the projectile isn't in the barrel until you're ready to fire it. You might even convince a DM that the 'smack' a trigger could give it might be equivalent to the 'tossing it on a solid surface' in the spell description, thus a making it completely mechanical to fire. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /> Anyway- Thoughts, Feedback???Ooh, Impeesa slipped the Shrapnel Bomb in while I was busy typing. I like that idea, except for the gunpowder. Our DM gave us flintlock's once (That's how I can justify the concept of a gun and what I wrote above) but he strictly limited our access to 'smokepowder'. He made it pseudo-magical so we couldn't even replicate it with alchemy. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f621.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":mad:" title="Mad    :mad:"  data-smilie="4"data-shortname=":mad:" /> But I just had to work around it. I made shrapnel bombs by getting FIVE gallon solid iron barrels, etching fragmentation lines in the sides and then putting SIX gallons worth of Shrink Item'd alchemists fire and oil into them. We hid them on a battlefield the night before the fight and used Shout to say the command word. Big BOOM!!!! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

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