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<blockquote data-quote="Retreater" data-source="post: 8039255" data-attributes="member: 42040">Other than the first couple sessions, we hadn't used Hero Points since starting our PF2 game in January. We had just forgotten they existed. But after getting on forums, re-reading the books after a very dangerous encounter the session before last, I decided it was time to make sure we were playing &quot;by the book,&quot; and I reminded everyone about Hero Points. It must've been then that every player said &quot;I can't die.&quot; The rogue transformed into a T-Rex and ran into an enemy camp, the party was split on two fronts - either of which would have been a challenging encounter for the entire group. The cleric couldn't burst heal everybody at the same time, they were so split.Each character, one by one, dropped. On their last death save, they simply chucked their Hero Point on the table (metaphorically speaking). &quot;I'm stable. I can't die.&quot; And you know what? The champion very nearly succeeded in driving off the last of the monsters. Had he survived one more round, the battle would've been won and the party would have proven they were immortals. But some bad rolls for him (and good for me), he also dropped. Even though he had a Hero Point to stabilize, the monsters were able to kill them all off.So I guess my question is, with the addition of Hero Points, is a TPK the only way to kill a character?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Retreater, post: 8039255, member: 42040"] Other than the first couple sessions, we hadn't used Hero Points since starting our PF2 game in January. We had just forgotten they existed. But after getting on forums, re-reading the books after a very dangerous encounter the session before last, I decided it was time to make sure we were playing "by the book," and I reminded everyone about Hero Points. It must've been then that every player said "I can't die." The rogue transformed into a T-Rex and ran into an enemy camp, the party was split on two fronts - either of which would have been a challenging encounter for the entire group. The cleric couldn't burst heal everybody at the same time, they were so split. Each character, one by one, dropped. On their last death save, they simply chucked their Hero Point on the table (metaphorically speaking). "I'm stable. I can't die." And you know what? The champion very nearly succeeded in driving off the last of the monsters. Had he survived one more round, the battle would've been won and the party would have proven they were immortals. But some bad rolls for him (and good for me), he also dropped. Even though he had a Hero Point to stabilize, the monsters were able to kill them all off. So I guess my question is, with the addition of Hero Points, is a TPK the only way to kill a character? [/QUOTE]

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