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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FreeTheSlaves" data-source="post: 2102285" data-attributes="member: 9952">I've found the middle levels to be a wasteland of needless deaths. At this point, the PC's see their great power relative to the local region they're in and start believing their own PR. As a DM, to challenge them you have to present them with obstacles without obvious solutions and let them use their resources to overcome them. If they ever get sloppy and don't recognize the danger soon enough they can find themselves on 10hp, with a P.o.CLWs and adjacent to some bruiser giant with 15' reach. Perhaps someone in need of anonymous lacky's has the ability to raise dead and is on cordial terms with the said monsters. Then again, perhaps an enemy of an enemy comes across the stripped corpses and figures that the PC's may be tough enough to be useful allies.</blockquote>