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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Diirk" data-source="post: 1352594" data-attributes="member: 14476">20 for this scenario would be correct... "Hard Ground: Any surface that doesn’t hold footprints at all, such as bare rock or an indoor floor. Most streambeds fall into this category, since any footprints left behind are obscured or washed away. The creature leaves only traces (scuff marks or displaced pebbles)."Little traffic on the floor? 20... maybe a small circumstance penalty if there's other obscuring trailsLayer of dust? 15. "Firm Ground: Most normal outdoor surfaces (such as lawns, fields, woods, and the like) or exceptionally soft or dirty indoor surfaces (thick rugs and very dirty or dusty floors). The creature might leave some traces (broken branches or tufts of hair), but it leaves only occasional or partial footprints."blood trails and signs? 0. But they might suspect a trap ;o)Other things that add or lower the DC ? Size modifiers (smaller creatures harder to track), if the party being tracked spends time trying to conceal his trail it makes it harder, multiple people in the party being tracked make it easier, etc</blockquote>