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<blockquote data-quote="Kahuna Burger" data-source="post: 1353280" data-attributes="member: 8439">actually, in 3.0 the rules didn't say that you needed cover or concealment to use the hide skill, so applying the same logic I'm using on track to hide was considered a nerf by many. In 3.5 they realized that some players were so attached to the chart in the book as the be all and end all that they actually had to spell out that skills were subject to the limits of, you know, life. I don't need to wait for them to spell it out on every skill, and its not nerfing if the character abilities are still useful in other situations.Locigal incorporation of present factors is never a nerf, IMHO and thats what I am suggesting in this example. (in every context I've heard it used nerfing means &quot;to make useless&quot;. Judging a tool inapproriate to a certain task doesn't make it useless, and I'm gonna have to reject your alternate defintion, especially as I am also inclined to allow the use of track in situations which I deem realistic but aren't explicitly spelled out in the rules.)Kahuna Burger</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kahuna Burger, post: 1353280, member: 8439"] actually, in 3.0 the rules didn't say that you needed cover or concealment to use the hide skill, so applying the same logic I'm using on track to hide was considered a nerf by many. In 3.5 they realized that some players were so attached to the chart in the book as the be all and end all that they actually had to spell out that skills were subject to the limits of, you know, life. I don't need to wait for them to spell it out on every skill, and its not nerfing if the character abilities are still useful in other situations. Locigal incorporation of present factors is never a nerf, IMHO and thats what I am suggesting in this example. (in every context I've heard it used nerfing means "to make useless". Judging a tool inapproriate to a certain task doesn't make it useless, and I'm gonna have to reject your alternate defintion, [b]especially[/b] as I am also inclined to allow the use of track in situations which I deem realistic but aren't explicitly spelled out in the rules.) Kahuna Burger [/QUOTE]

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