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<blockquote data-quote="silentspace" data-source="post: 1353356" data-attributes="member: 14316">Sorry, I have to disagree.&nbsp; Haste was nerfed, for example.&nbsp; Haste was not made useless.&nbsp; It was weakened.&nbsp; Also, 'nerf' doesn't always have a negative connotation.&nbsp; Perhaps you're giving it a negative connotation because you think you know better then the game designers.&nbsp; (And there's nothing wrong with thinking that - we all have problems with various aspects of the rules.)&nbsp; So I don't think I have an alternate definition of nerf, but rather you do.BTW, I also disagree with your assessment of 3.0 Hide.&nbsp; Some people may have chosen to interpret it differently, but the 3.0 PHB says Hide is used to &quot;sink back into the shadows,&quot; etc.&nbsp; It also says &quot;If people are observing you... you can't hide.&nbsp; You can run around a corner... so that you're out of sight and then hide...&quot; Some people choose to read things in a way that are most beneficial to them, but to most dispassionate observers the text was pretty clear.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="silentspace, post: 1353356, member: 14316"] Sorry, I have to disagree. Haste was nerfed, for example. Haste was not made useless. It was weakened. Also, 'nerf' doesn't always have a negative connotation. Perhaps you're giving it a negative connotation because you think you know better then the game designers. (And there's nothing wrong with thinking that - we all have problems with various aspects of the rules.) So I don't think I have an alternate definition of nerf, but rather you do. BTW, I also disagree with your assessment of 3.0 Hide. Some people may have chosen to interpret it differently, but the 3.0 PHB says Hide is used to "sink back into the shadows," etc. It also says "If people are observing you... you can't hide. You can run around a corner... so that you're out of sight and then hide..." Some people choose to read things in a way that are most beneficial to them, but to most dispassionate observers the text was pretty clear. [/QUOTE]

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