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<blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 1354846" data-attributes="member: 5777">Of course a level one noob can succeed pretty easily. 3 checks (20 minutes roughly, the first check and then 10 minutes between the next two) and he is up to 75% chance of success almost. First level. What was this heroic or epic stuff? This guy just walked out of training, is practically made of green.3rd level is so far from epic levels it isnt even funny. These sort of characters have been useing their abilities, but are exceedingly far from their potential.Some things should be very hard. This is not to say that 'it should always be hard for any character', nor is that what I have said in previous posts.If the 1st level noob who barely succeeds at not drooling on himself can track just about anyone just about anywhere there is something wrong. If people here cannot see the problem.. well.. I dont know.If the guy is covering his tracks then you need to be 2nd level in order to be able to beat it with regularity. Oh wow.. we are hitting the power levels now.I would have to say that something here is seriously wrong. Even under the hardest conditions characters with just a few levels and some minor amounts of planning cannot fail. Again, there is something wrong.DC 20 is not outside the realm of possibilities as has been shown repeatidly. Even characters with nearly no training have a chance. This demonstrates a problem.Same sort of thing as I said earlier. It is the same as the fighter vs an opponent, all opponents AC's are naked:10, leather:15, and metal:20. No other modifiers. This is effectively exactly the same as what is going on here. Now do you see the problem?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Scion, post: 1354846, member: 5777"] Of course a level one noob can succeed pretty easily. 3 checks (20 minutes roughly, the first check and then 10 minutes between the next two) and he is up to 75% chance of success almost. First level. What was this heroic or epic stuff? This guy just walked out of training, is practically made of green. 3rd level is so far from epic levels it isnt even funny. These sort of characters have been useing their abilities, but are exceedingly far from their potential. Some things should be very hard. This is not to say that 'it should always be hard for any character', nor is that what I have said in previous posts. If the 1st level noob who barely succeeds at not drooling on himself can track just about anyone just about anywhere there is something wrong. If people here cannot see the problem.. well.. I dont know. If the guy is covering his tracks then you need to be 2nd level in order to be able to beat it with regularity. Oh wow.. we are hitting the power levels now. I would have to say that something here is seriously wrong. Even under the hardest conditions characters with just a few levels and some minor amounts of planning cannot fail. Again, there is something wrong. DC 20 is not outside the realm of possibilities as has been shown repeatidly. Even characters with nearly no training have a chance. This demonstrates a problem. Same sort of thing as I said earlier. It is the same as the fighter vs an opponent, all opponents AC's are naked:10, leather:15, and metal:20. No other modifiers. This is effectively exactly the same as what is going on here. Now do you see the problem? [/QUOTE]

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