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<blockquote data-quote="Diirk" data-source="post: 1355235" data-attributes="member: 14476">There's nothing wrong with circumstance modifiers, it just seems like the stated case (BBEG runs over a hard floor through a door and the party tries to locate his tracks to see which door he goes through) is a perfect example of the dc 20 described in the tracking feat description. The +15 circumstance modifiers suggested by some people on this thread seem a little ludicrous.DC 35 to track someone over a stone floor when he's passed mere moments ago, in haste, with presumably no time to even attempt mild methods of covering his tracks?Remember, DC 40 spot checks can pinpoint the exact location of an invisible creature (assuming they aren't holding still)... a listen check 20 higher than the opponents move silently roll does the same. Hell a hide check 20 higher than your opponents spot check can let you stay hidden while you're attacking them !By the rules, DC 40 tracking should let you actively track the BBEG in this situation while continuing to move at double your normal movement rate. Thats the disadvantage tracking always has.. unless you make that check by alot, you'll never be able to move as fast as the person running away from you.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Diirk, post: 1355235, member: 14476"] There's nothing wrong with circumstance modifiers, it just seems like the stated case (BBEG runs over a hard floor through a door and the party tries to locate his tracks to see which door he goes through) is a perfect example of the dc 20 described in the tracking feat description. The +15 circumstance modifiers suggested by some people on this thread seem a little ludicrous. DC 35 to track someone over a stone floor when he's passed mere moments ago, in haste, with presumably no time to even attempt mild methods of covering his tracks? Remember, DC 40 spot checks can pinpoint the exact location of an invisible creature (assuming they aren't holding still)... a listen check 20 higher than the opponents move silently roll does the same. Hell a hide check 20 higher than your opponents spot check can let you stay hidden while you're attacking them ! By the rules, DC 40 tracking should let you actively track the BBEG in this situation while continuing to move at double your normal movement rate. Thats the disadvantage tracking always has.. unless you make that check by alot, you'll never be able to move as fast as the person running away from you. [/QUOTE]

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