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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 1356600" data-attributes="member: 5777">Then you are saying track is always useless indoors? I certainly hope not, skills do have uses.Long gone? At some point people have to stop to rest. This is how things work in many books while tracking, you track them over the course of days and catch up at night or find out where they went at the end. It isnt about finding them instantly in most cases. So the time dealy isnt huge. Also, 20 ranks or more?? Now you are saying it takes level 17+ to be able to use it? Outdoors there are only so many places that dc 20 comes into play, with a +12 at level 2 the character can get pretty high up there before too long.Plus, currently there is only one way for characters to increase the dc. That is to 'hide their tracks'. this is fairly undefined but cuts their movement rate in half. So outdoors even when they are hiding their tracks it is still pretty easy to track them, and to keep up.Not terribly here nor there, but definately something to consider.Just initiated? I guess you mean with no ranks and no wisdom. So again, people with no skill cant track very well. This tends not to prove anything <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />1st level guy can have 4 ranks, and if he spent the feat on it then chances are good he will pick up 4 ranks. Especially since this skill is incredibly useful before picking up track.So that would mean, moving at half speed, he gets a check to hit 16 or higher on a d20.  25% chance to be able to follow the guy for 1 mile with no futher checks. If he makes that particular check then anywhere that guy goes inside his building the character will follow. 1 mile indoors is a very large amount.If he fails the first check then he has to wait 10 minutes, in your paragraph above this apparently means that it is worthless for you. Thats fine I suppose.. level 1 guy has 1 in 4 chance of winning, elsewise you let your foe get away.Unless you go for the rest of the checks, and try to catch up later by hunting him down with more track checks. ::shrugs:: This is just a guy with no wisdom and a few ranks in the skill. This works in this case to some degree.. if you just pick up the foe and drop them out of the game when they are 'out of site for more than a few moments' or something like that, but I could be misunderstanding what you mean by useless <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />The rest of your post talked about 5x5 areas, unless the actual phb says something different than the srd a single successful check lets you follow the guy for a mile.</blockquote>

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