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<blockquote data-quote="Quickleaf" data-source="post: 6188568" data-attributes="member: 20323">One thing Apocalypse/Dungeon World totally nailed was that failure shouldn't mean &quot;nothing happens.&quot; In the case of failed track checks, I've often seen DMs (myself included) simply say &quot;you can't pick up the tracks because...it rained.&quot; I think the D&amp;D Next rules should duplicity call out how to adjudicate failures. For example, instead it would be &quot;ok, you follow what you think are the tracks about a half days' hike into the deep woods when you realize that they were circling back to you...&quot;Or &quot;you track till it gets late but you've pushed yourselves hard and your quarry still has outpaced you, you are in troll-infested hills around midnight.&quot;Or &quot;you lose the quarry's tracks at the edge of Bittern Wood and Howling Hills where the Shyvern River runs, you don't know which way they went next.&quot;Making failure meaningful tends to nip &quot;party pile-on checks&quot; in the bud.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Quickleaf, post: 6188568, member: 20323"] One thing Apocalypse/Dungeon World totally nailed was that failure shouldn't mean "nothing happens." In the case of failed track checks, I've often seen DMs (myself included) simply say "you can't pick up the tracks because...it rained." I think the D&D Next rules should duplicity call out how to adjudicate failures. For example, instead it would be "ok, you follow what you think are the tracks about a half days' hike into the deep woods when you realize that they were circling back to you..." Or "you track till it gets late but you've pushed yourselves hard and your quarry still has outpaced you, you are in troll-infested hills around midnight." Or "you lose the quarry's tracks at the edge of Bittern Wood and Howling Hills where the Shyvern River runs, you don't know which way they went next." Making failure meaningful tends to nip "party pile-on checks" in the bud. [/QUOTE]

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