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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mallus" data-source="post: 6101361" data-attributes="member: 3887">Yes!This is why traveling backwards in time is impossible, ie causality violation paradoxes, often stated as the "Grandfather Paradox". Time-travel (backwards) stories are, by definition, nonsense. Unless you accept Everett's "Many Worlds" hypothesis, in which case traveling back in time is okay, but you end up creating a separate universe (which still means stories about "fixing" the timeline are nonsense). Of course, this doesn't stop people from writing time travel stories. Which is a good thing, 'cause I like them. You just can't ask too many questions -- or at least the wrong questions. No, it doesn't. That's nonsense. Marty fading away is a very clever cinematic conceit. The real reason it happens is to allow the Marty, and the audience, to *see* his time running out. It's a way of increasing tension in those scenes. The fading also serves as a "guide" for Marty, so he tell what actions help preserve his existence. Put another way, the fading only makes sense in the context of a movie, as a supposed depiction of some real, timey-whimey phenomena, it's nonsense. Time doesn't work like that. OK. Like I said, I think the tone of the scene does a lot of important and interesting work -- but I admit, I care about things like tone a lot more than most of the other SF fans I've talked to.So you hate Trek 2009 so much you've either watched the deleted scenes or read the novelization? Sometimes SF fans can be real gluttons for punishment. I should know -- I can't count how many made-for-SyFy channel movies I've seen (though my wife's partially to blame for that. She loves them). Future Spock should only fade away if he traveled back into Back to the Future. Time doesn't work that in the Trek universe. Kinda like an elongated, cylindrical Shadow vessel from Babylon 5. "Why I say son, I was making a joke you see, a joke! I know you can't pluralize a Japanese word by slappin' an 'e' on the end like it was the Pope's own Latin!" (this previous sentence is also a joke, but it's funnier if you say it out loud in the Foghorn Leghorn voice). Tennis today is really 'lawn tennis'. The original game, sometimes called 'real tennis' is another racket sport which is sort of weird and played on indoor courts. In the 19th century, 'tennis' referred to this game, not the one played by Roger Federer and Raphael Nadal. So maybe in the 23rd century, the word 'fencing' will describe a sport that includes katanae, and maybe even lazor-swords. It's as plausible as anything else in Star Trek. Yes, but even in a cutesy harem outfit, an Orion *Slave* Girl is still a kind of coerced sex worker. The operative word here is "slave". I was just teasing you a little. It's funny that you muffed the name of one of the most famous Trek episodes.</blockquote>

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