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Training peasants to fight in a pinch
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<blockquote data-quote="Friend of the Dork" data-source="post: 5736140" data-attributes="member: 91954"><p>Just a few facts: In Pathfinder, a lvl 1 Commoner is CR 1/3 (as is a warrior). Secondly, Commoners are only trained with 1 simple weapon, not all. What are the odds that everyone knows how to use a spear OR sling OR crossbow?</p><p></p><p>Rules wise they are indeed in deep doo. The way I see it they can work as distractions and support, unless you use some kind of mass combat rules (swarm horde/mob rules) where they can be effective in sheer numbers. All of this depends on the enemy being overconfident, surprised or just inept. </p><p></p><p>Levels: I agree not all should be lvl 1, but I'm not sure if age is the only requirement here. After all, a 30 year old "man" who has lived with his mother his whole life, doing simple errands in a city, and never been in a fight is not gonna be a 5th level commoner! I'd say his lack of ambition and experience makes him 1st or MAYBE 2nd level. </p><p></p><p>On the other hand, the young man that left his home at 15 to join a sailing ship, has faced merfolk on the sea, and been in countless bar brawls and maybe survived a Pirate raid, might easily be lvl 3 or more at 18 years. It is also possible he might have multiclassed into Warrior or even gotten himself a PC class with some training. </p><p></p><p>If the village is anything like the one in the Magnificent 7 or the 7 Samurai, all the villagers will be Commoners who have lived there all their lives, and the most experienced ones have only "encountered" drought, heavy rains, maybe some dangerous wildlife, and an occasional fistfight. They are easily bullied for a reason. The only high-level commoner will be so old he is useless in a fight anyway, and will only be useful for his vast knowledge of farming and poking the young 'uns with a stick. </p><p></p><p>The whole scenario is actually fitting for a low level party, 2nd or 3rd level hopefully, who with their skills and possible ingenuity can give the villagers a chance, and who would also be hopelessly outnumbered if facing all the bandits by themselves.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Friend of the Dork, post: 5736140, member: 91954"] Just a few facts: In Pathfinder, a lvl 1 Commoner is CR 1/3 (as is a warrior). Secondly, Commoners are only trained with 1 simple weapon, not all. What are the odds that everyone knows how to use a spear OR sling OR crossbow? Rules wise they are indeed in deep doo. The way I see it they can work as distractions and support, unless you use some kind of mass combat rules (swarm horde/mob rules) where they can be effective in sheer numbers. All of this depends on the enemy being overconfident, surprised or just inept. Levels: I agree not all should be lvl 1, but I'm not sure if age is the only requirement here. After all, a 30 year old "man" who has lived with his mother his whole life, doing simple errands in a city, and never been in a fight is not gonna be a 5th level commoner! I'd say his lack of ambition and experience makes him 1st or MAYBE 2nd level. On the other hand, the young man that left his home at 15 to join a sailing ship, has faced merfolk on the sea, and been in countless bar brawls and maybe survived a Pirate raid, might easily be lvl 3 or more at 18 years. It is also possible he might have multiclassed into Warrior or even gotten himself a PC class with some training. If the village is anything like the one in the Magnificent 7 or the 7 Samurai, all the villagers will be Commoners who have lived there all their lives, and the most experienced ones have only "encountered" drought, heavy rains, maybe some dangerous wildlife, and an occasional fistfight. They are easily bullied for a reason. The only high-level commoner will be so old he is useless in a fight anyway, and will only be useful for his vast knowledge of farming and poking the young 'uns with a stick. The whole scenario is actually fitting for a low level party, 2nd or 3rd level hopefully, who with their skills and possible ingenuity can give the villagers a chance, and who would also be hopelessly outnumbered if facing all the bandits by themselves. [/QUOTE]
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