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<blockquote data-quote="The Serge" data-source="post: 3628339" data-attributes="member: 4049"><p>They could have collapsed the brainiac with her buddies and the black guy (which, as an African American, I thought his inclusion was actually not forced or strained). Heck, they should have had her be one of the analysts working in NSA, not some hire. That would have eliminated one character. The same for the Sector 7 guys. Gone or have them show up from the beginning... This would have eliminated the need for Tuuro's character and/or Voigt's character if they made him a high ranking agent. That was an extra level of plot that was utterly meaningless. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Chewbacca and the droids provided a bit of levity in the proceedings and their characters didn't take up much unnecessary space/scenes (arguably the droids do near the beginning, but my thought on them is that they're there to get the audience from the Blockade Runner to Tatooine and Luke... They kind of drop out after we meet Luke). And in LotRs, most of those characters are actually featured prominently in relatively important scenes... Furthermore, they're characters adapted from a book and it's difficult to excise them without drawing fan ire; such is not the case in <em>Transformers</em> since we're dealing with no more than two prominent human protagonists from the cartoon or comic miniseries who (sort of) make it to the flick. </p><p></p><p>As for your other examples, I hated all of those movies in part because of the large casts (<em>The Day After Tomorrow</em> gets something of a pass since the effects were so cool). <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Apparently, Prime was written to have killed him but that portion was edited from the script. To me, the face of the Decepticons was initially Blackout and then Frenzy, so -- although I noticed that Barricade disappeared -- I wasn't too bumbed out about it. </p><p></p><p>More than anyone else, I missed Starscream playing a more prominent role. Of the Decepticons, he's my favorite after Soundwave (well, he actually like him as much as Megatron), so I was miffed that he didn't speak more.</p><p></p><p></p><p>But the 'toons were 20 minutes or so with five minute fights, usually two a piece for 10 minutes. That's have the show of fighting. This didn't have that. Now, I'm not saying that I wanted a bunch of fighting, but more interaction between the Decepticons would have been nice.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, and Megatron did create a canon, although it wasn't like the big, honking thing he used in the cartoon series.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Serge, post: 3628339, member: 4049"] They could have collapsed the brainiac with her buddies and the black guy (which, as an African American, I thought his inclusion was actually not forced or strained). Heck, they should have had her be one of the analysts working in NSA, not some hire. That would have eliminated one character. The same for the Sector 7 guys. Gone or have them show up from the beginning... This would have eliminated the need for Tuuro's character and/or Voigt's character if they made him a high ranking agent. That was an extra level of plot that was utterly meaningless. Chewbacca and the droids provided a bit of levity in the proceedings and their characters didn't take up much unnecessary space/scenes (arguably the droids do near the beginning, but my thought on them is that they're there to get the audience from the Blockade Runner to Tatooine and Luke... They kind of drop out after we meet Luke). And in LotRs, most of those characters are actually featured prominently in relatively important scenes... Furthermore, they're characters adapted from a book and it's difficult to excise them without drawing fan ire; such is not the case in [i]Transformers[/i] since we're dealing with no more than two prominent human protagonists from the cartoon or comic miniseries who (sort of) make it to the flick. As for your other examples, I hated all of those movies in part because of the large casts ([i]The Day After Tomorrow[/i] gets something of a pass since the effects were so cool). :p Apparently, Prime was written to have killed him but that portion was edited from the script. To me, the face of the Decepticons was initially Blackout and then Frenzy, so -- although I noticed that Barricade disappeared -- I wasn't too bumbed out about it. More than anyone else, I missed Starscream playing a more prominent role. Of the Decepticons, he's my favorite after Soundwave (well, he actually like him as much as Megatron), so I was miffed that he didn't speak more. But the 'toons were 20 minutes or so with five minute fights, usually two a piece for 10 minutes. That's have the show of fighting. This didn't have that. Now, I'm not saying that I wanted a bunch of fighting, but more interaction between the Decepticons would have been nice. Yes, and Megatron did create a canon, although it wasn't like the big, honking thing he used in the cartoon series. [/QUOTE]
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