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<blockquote data-quote="prosfilaes" data-source="post: 3591426" data-attributes="member: 40166"><p>And see, that statement is part of what scares me to the core about your world. The progression of it's different, it's aberrant, it needs to be stomped out. That's what would cause a lot of people to fight it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What's wrong with hedonist behavior? What are we going to do with immortality if we don't have fun?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There's no commonly accepted definition of psychopathy, so it doesn't mean a whole lot to say Hitler was one. I'm not inclined to believe that it's terribly useful lump Hitler in with Dalmer and Bundy or that any cure is going to look very much alike.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In increasing order of importance:</p><p>(a) Some people will refuse any sort of genetic manipulation on principle.</p><p>(b) Psychopaths may value the traits and want their children to carry them on.</p><p>(c) The further your program of curing people goes, the more likely reasonable people could disagree about whether it's a cure or not. Asperger's Syndrome and ADD have people arguing against the standard disease analysis. You start attacking violent behavior, many people are going to feel that you'll sap their children's ability to defend themselves.</p><p>(d) Most of these aren't Huntington's disease or achondroplasia; there's not a certainty that this disease will develop unless you change this one gene that won't have big effects elsewhere. You tell me that you're looking at a 25% chance of schizophrenia, but the changes are guarenteed to reduce imagination and intelligence? I'm not sure I'm signing up. In TS, there's a racial template that would make them smarter, but make it harder for them to communicate with people without that template (statted up as stuttering); yeah, I'd probably go for that for my children.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't think Hitler did that; he played mostly on their pre-existing perceptions.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Charles I and James II? Or the French Revolution? How about the American anti-drug and anti-tobacco campaigns and their rousing successes?</p><p></p><p>Which is not to mention that we're living in a lot different world, one where the government, or even the government and big corporations, are losing their control over what people see and hear, and where the concepts of individuality and freedom are considered important and valuable. The US has anti-vaccine and anti-floridation that push their cases, and the anti-vaccine groups frequently manage to keep their kids unvaccinated.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="prosfilaes, post: 3591426, member: 40166"] And see, that statement is part of what scares me to the core about your world. The progression of it's different, it's aberrant, it needs to be stomped out. That's what would cause a lot of people to fight it. What's wrong with hedonist behavior? What are we going to do with immortality if we don't have fun? There's no commonly accepted definition of psychopathy, so it doesn't mean a whole lot to say Hitler was one. I'm not inclined to believe that it's terribly useful lump Hitler in with Dalmer and Bundy or that any cure is going to look very much alike. In increasing order of importance: (a) Some people will refuse any sort of genetic manipulation on principle. (b) Psychopaths may value the traits and want their children to carry them on. (c) The further your program of curing people goes, the more likely reasonable people could disagree about whether it's a cure or not. Asperger's Syndrome and ADD have people arguing against the standard disease analysis. You start attacking violent behavior, many people are going to feel that you'll sap their children's ability to defend themselves. (d) Most of these aren't Huntington's disease or achondroplasia; there's not a certainty that this disease will develop unless you change this one gene that won't have big effects elsewhere. You tell me that you're looking at a 25% chance of schizophrenia, but the changes are guarenteed to reduce imagination and intelligence? I'm not sure I'm signing up. In TS, there's a racial template that would make them smarter, but make it harder for them to communicate with people without that template (statted up as stuttering); yeah, I'd probably go for that for my children. I don't think Hitler did that; he played mostly on their pre-existing perceptions. Charles I and James II? Or the French Revolution? How about the American anti-drug and anti-tobacco campaigns and their rousing successes? Which is not to mention that we're living in a lot different world, one where the government, or even the government and big corporations, are losing their control over what people see and hear, and where the concepts of individuality and freedom are considered important and valuable. The US has anti-vaccine and anti-floridation that push their cases, and the anti-vaccine groups frequently manage to keep their kids unvaccinated. [/QUOTE]
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