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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 8380080" data-attributes="member: 16814">None of these are combat whoosh moments, but instead all seem like further action resolution is necessary to resolve.1.&nbsp; The PCs can try to force the other side to &quot;draw first&quot; with a successful action, say maybe an intimidate or deception contested by a WIS save or WIS(Insight) as the GM wishes.2.&nbsp; Assassin needs to declare some actions.&nbsp; It seems like he has some problems in his way and they need resolving.&nbsp; I don't see combat close enough here to worry about the whoosh.3. Okay, what's the target doing about it?&nbsp; Again, no combat whoosh moment here.4.&nbsp; This is closer, but seems like a straightforward group DEX(Stealth) contested by the individual passive Perception scores of the orcs.&nbsp; If successful, the orcs would be surprised.&nbsp; You could also do a group Initiative check (it is an ability check, if a special one) to see here as well.5.&nbsp; This seems pretty hard, but the PC can try, certainly.&nbsp; Sounds like that player needs to declare an action so that it can be adjudicated.&nbsp; Might help to flesh out that scene a bit.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 8380080, member: 16814"] None of these are combat whoosh moments, but instead all seem like further action resolution is necessary to resolve. 1. The PCs can try to force the other side to "draw first" with a successful action, say maybe an intimidate or deception contested by a WIS save or WIS(Insight) as the GM wishes. 2. Assassin needs to declare some actions. It seems like he has some problems in his way and they need resolving. I don't see combat close enough here to worry about the whoosh. 3. Okay, what's the target doing about it? Again, no combat whoosh moment here. 4. This is closer, but seems like a straightforward group DEX(Stealth) contested by the individual passive Perception scores of the orcs. If successful, the orcs would be surprised. You could also do a group Initiative check (it is an ability check, if a special one) to see here as well. 5. This seems pretty hard, but the PC can try, certainly. Sounds like that player needs to declare an action so that it can be adjudicated. Might help to flesh out that scene a bit. [/QUOTE]

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