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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 8385365" data-attributes="member: 6795602">If no one actually starts it then no combat.&nbsp; If someone declares to start it then roll initiative and enemies that go ahead that player realize his intent ie he started to move for his weapon or otherwise hostile act but they were prepared and reacted faster.Assuming his target is otherwise distracted in the room then lockpick check to determine if he gets through silently.&nbsp; If he fails then target is aware.&nbsp; A particularly bad fail might result in the target being aware and the door staying locked.Make the scene as concrete as needed.&nbsp; If the player suspects the assassain is behind the desk and the player carefully watches the desk when entering the room then he will not be surprised if the assassain is behind the desk.&nbsp; If the assassain is somewhere else or he doesn't have some specific idea of where the assassain is then perception vs stealth.The orcs are either surprised or not surprised.&nbsp; 1 character cannot surprise the orcs while the others do not.&nbsp; This would occur vs normal stealth vs perception rules.This depends on the specifics of the guards etc.&nbsp; He may not even be able to get close to the individual.&nbsp; He may be able to get close but have no chance of escape.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 8385365, member: 6795602"] If no one actually starts it then no combat. If someone declares to start it then roll initiative and enemies that go ahead that player realize his intent ie he started to move for his weapon or otherwise hostile act but they were prepared and reacted faster. Assuming his target is otherwise distracted in the room then lockpick check to determine if he gets through silently. If he fails then target is aware. A particularly bad fail might result in the target being aware and the door staying locked. Make the scene as concrete as needed. If the player suspects the assassain is behind the desk and the player carefully watches the desk when entering the room then he will not be surprised if the assassain is behind the desk. If the assassain is somewhere else or he doesn't have some specific idea of where the assassain is then perception vs stealth. The orcs are either surprised or not surprised. 1 character cannot surprise the orcs while the others do not. This would occur vs normal stealth vs perception rules. This depends on the specifics of the guards etc. He may not even be able to get close to the individual. He may be able to get close but have no chance of escape. [/QUOTE]

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