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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DNH" data-source="post: 4970424" data-attributes="member: 63615">That's not bad, and it's a fairly good compromise solution, but I still have a problem with Aid Another on the whole.  The players really want me to include it RAW.  They are saying that not knowing the DC of Aid Another, combined with a penalty for failure, is going to put them off trying it.  And that will mean that Skill Challenges will end up excluding some players when they don't have relevant skills.  My argument against that is that they will always have relevant skills (refer Ari Marmell's article on here) and so Aid Another is unlikely to be used.  But they're not buying it.I am *this* close (about an eighth of an inch!) from pulling the plug on Aid Another in Skill Challenges altogether.</blockquote>