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Message: <blockquote data-quote="javcs" data-source="post: 4574761" data-attributes="member: 43677">Have the interior door of the antechamber locked - and possibly with a trap on that as well to keep them busy.Say that the Ceiling trap is triggered when the door unlocks or the trap on the door is disabled - it doesn't start dropping until the next round, however - make it a moderately high Listen Check (DC in the mid-20s) to notice something creaking. Alternatively, you could give them a fairly high Spot or Search check to notice something funny with the walls around where it falls.Remember, if the trigger is inside the wall or on the other side, no Search Check will find the trigger.Give them an Obvious Trap(tm) to draw their attention; remember, Searching for traps requires deliberate action and takes time - also, if they don't Search the Room (which, if you give them something to distract them with, is less likely to happen) as a whole, but only say 'I search the door for traps' or some such, specifying an object or area other than the ceiling, they don't find that trap.Remember, to use Search, they need to be adjacent to the area they're searching - with a high (15ft or more) ceiling they'd need to climb the walls or fly to search it - if you use a magical trigger, such as an Alarm spell or something similar/suitably modified for use in traps, then all you need is a cover for that trigger, such as an Obvious Trap(tm).An Obvious Trap(tm) doesn't necessarily have to actually have a trigger to set it off - you can fool someone into thinking they've disabled the Obvious Trap(tm) by jamming the apparent mechanisms, instead of disabling the trigger (to the ceiling trap). If they decide to be clever about it, and disable the trigger without setting it off, but leave the Obvious Trap(tm) mechanisms functional, you can say the trigger for the Obvious Trap is on the other side of the door.If you haven't made your PC's utterly paranoid, then any of these ideas will probably work adequately well for your purposes.</blockquote>

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