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Message: <blockquote data-quote="smathis" data-source="post: 4103489" data-attributes="member: 56465">I like this too. But I'm not sure I'd go into penalties and all that. I'd likely have the PC take a Persistent Condition. Each persistent condition would lower the PCs total Healing Surges per day by 1.After resetting your Surges at the start of each day, roll for each persistent condition just like you would at the end of a round.And if we're going for grit, might I suggest randomizing the recovery of Healing Surges?Just have a PC roll their Hit Die + Con bonus at the end of a 6-hour rest. That's how many Surges they have for the day. So a Thief with 14 Con would get 1d6 + 2 Surges back. While the Fighter types would be able to recover more.The rationale being that the PCs just spent the night sleeping in a Cave, trading watches, etc. That can hardly be considered a "good night's rest". So sometimes a Fighter would sleep uneasily and wake up with 5 Surges. Other times he'd wake up with 14.And if you wanted to be REALLY grim with it. Have the DM keep track of Healing Surges and Hit Points in secret. I've played in games (like Unknown Armies) where the damage is described in terms of effects on the PC. It's incumbent upon the DM to communicate the relative health of a character clearly. But it's also quite awesome to hear how the battle wears on a hero (as opposed to "You take 5 points damage").Beyond that, I'm all for a crit removing a Healing Surge as long as it has a comparable effect on the PC's opponents. Maybe giving PC's a short list of options they can take if they roll a 20 would even the odds?</blockquote>

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