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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 8807979" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>I have never yet seen a copy of Book 8: Nobody used it. The problem is, if you even mildly extrapolate the likely effects of these technologies then you end up with a society that is vastly, unrecognizably, different from our own. That clearly poses a problem for RP. Even just thinking about it in the context of Traveller, the milieu was already firmly established long before Book 8, so it can be no more than window dressing really. I mean, you could posit some 'planet of robots' somewhere at the fringe of the Empire and whatever, but in terms of the mainline milieu robots (and related stuff) are basically no more than a curiosity.</p><p></p><p>Sure, but you understand what I mean. 10 diameters is a pretty long distance, 120,000 klicks for an Earth-size planet.</p><p></p><p>Sure, but a TL12 MBT is a hypersonic space craft! Why would the role played by rotorcraft even exist at TL12? It wouldn't. It wouldn't even exist at TL10 or even 9 probably. I mean, choppers are pretty much on their way out NOW, except in a few specific niche roles.</p><p></p><p>Oh, I perfectly understand what his reasoning was. He wanted a game that would allow the players to move around in a society that they could understand, with some interesting features added (nobility and such). There's no mystery about it.</p><p></p><p>Yes, again, we understand that. It doesn't change my point. I think what I'm saying is felt by most people who play the game and it has, to a degree, limited its appeal.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 8807979, member: 82106"] I have never yet seen a copy of Book 8: Nobody used it. The problem is, if you even mildly extrapolate the likely effects of these technologies then you end up with a society that is vastly, unrecognizably, different from our own. That clearly poses a problem for RP. Even just thinking about it in the context of Traveller, the milieu was already firmly established long before Book 8, so it can be no more than window dressing really. I mean, you could posit some 'planet of robots' somewhere at the fringe of the Empire and whatever, but in terms of the mainline milieu robots (and related stuff) are basically no more than a curiosity. Sure, but you understand what I mean. 10 diameters is a pretty long distance, 120,000 klicks for an Earth-size planet. Sure, but a TL12 MBT is a hypersonic space craft! Why would the role played by rotorcraft even exist at TL12? It wouldn't. It wouldn't even exist at TL10 or even 9 probably. I mean, choppers are pretty much on their way out NOW, except in a few specific niche roles. Oh, I perfectly understand what his reasoning was. He wanted a game that would allow the players to move around in a society that they could understand, with some interesting features added (nobility and such). There's no mystery about it. Yes, again, we understand that. It doesn't change my point. I think what I'm saying is felt by most people who play the game and it has, to a degree, limited its appeal. [/QUOTE]
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