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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 6641754" data-attributes="member: 177">With respect - I suspect you speak from ignorance on methodology.&nbsp; I gave a quick precis, so that laymen could get a basic idea of where ideas came from.&nbsp; Do not, for a moment, take that as a full accounting of the intellectual rigor of the actual scientific discussion involved.And, no, there was nothing in the methodology that was poor.&nbsp;&nbsp; When doing scientific investigation, if your empirical measurements don't match what you expect, proper methodology includes trying to find *all* possible culprits.&nbsp; Closing your mind to alternatives is poor methodology.&nbsp; Assuming that you caught all the data, and that the mathematical model is incorrect, is a form of arrogance - &quot;I couldn't *possibly* have missed anything!&quot;&nbsp; So, no, there was no issue with the methodology.&nbsp; There may have been a problem with how you were taught about the &quot;scientific method&quot; - it is common to teach kids that science (specifically physics) goes from equation -&gt; experiment -&gt; updated equation.&nbsp; This is demonstrative, but an oversimplification of valid scientific process.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 6641754, member: 177"] With respect - I suspect you speak from ignorance on methodology. I gave a quick precis, so that laymen could get a basic idea of where ideas came from. Do not, for a moment, take that as a full accounting of the intellectual rigor of the actual scientific discussion involved. And, no, there was nothing in the methodology that was poor. When doing scientific investigation, if your empirical measurements don't match what you expect, proper methodology includes trying to find *all* possible culprits. Closing your mind to alternatives is poor methodology. Assuming that you caught all the data, and that the mathematical model is incorrect, is a form of arrogance - "I couldn't *possibly* have missed anything!" So, no, there was no issue with the methodology. There may have been a problem with how you were taught about the "scientific method" - it is common to teach kids that science (specifically physics) goes from equation -> experiment -> updated equation. This is demonstrative, but an oversimplification of valid scientific process. [/QUOTE]

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