Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.

Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="MasterOfHeaven" data-source="post: 89406" data-attributes="member: 196">I *know* powergaming. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Which is why I don't think the Genasi really are an appropiate ECL+1 race.  I am also aware that several people hold this viewpoint.  We can start a thread in D&D Rules if you like, but just for comparison, check out the following three ECL+1 Races.Aassimar:+2 Wisdom, +2 Charisma, no penalties to statistics.  They not considered Humanoids, therefore they are immune to spells like Charm Person, Hold Person and so on.  They get Darkvision, plus a +2 bonus to Spot and Listen checks, as well as the ability to use Light once a day at a caster level equal to their character level.  And let's not forget they also have Acid, Cold and Electricity resistance 5.  Next, the Tiefling:+2 Dexterity, +2 Intelligence, -2 Charisma.  They have a penalty to Charisma, but Dexterity and Intelligence affect more skills and ability checks than Wisdom and Charisma.  They also are not considered Humanoids, thus granting them immunity to potentially devestating low level spells.  They also get Darkvision, and a nice +2 bonus to Bluff and Hide checks, as well as the ability to use the second level spell Darkness once per day, at a caster level equal to their character level, and Fire, Cold and Electricity resistance 5.And finally, the Hobgoblin:+2 to Dexterity (Or Strength, can't remember) and Constitution.  No penalties.  They also have Darkvision and a +4 racial bonus to Move Silently checks.Compare all of the above ECL+1 races to the Earth Genasi, and tell me again they fit as an ECL+1 race.  The Genasi, as they are now, are far more balanced at +0 ECL than at +1.  Lok should have an extra level, or you should increase the Genasis abilities, in my opinion.  One last point...  The Dwarven race recieves a +2 to Constitution and -2 to Charisma, as well as a whole horde of special abilities like +2 to save vs ALL spells and spell like abilities, bonuses to hit Orcs, bonuses to dodge against giants and so on.  Should they be ECL+1 too?As for Loks next level...  Is he still going to be tromping around in that heavy armor?  Because the Barbarian doesn't get some of his special abilites if he's wearing heavy armor.  Still, I think it would fit Lok just fine to take a level or two in Barbarian.  You could just work the Rage ability into the PrClass you're planning on having him take, though.  Good luck, and I am of course looking forward to the next update.</blockquote>

Verification