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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Treantmonklvl20" data-source="post: 6617312" data-attributes="member: 55582">I changed my Forcecage rating yesterday.  It is currently blue.  My original rating was based on the mistaken assumption the material cost was per casting.As for hold person, yes, with a failed save, an applicable target is super-screwed for a round.  With each additional failed save, screwed for another round.  As I mentioned in the statement you quoted, lots of spells screw the target who fails a save, though many don't provide saves every round, or affect multiple creatures, or have a wider variety of applicable targets, or don't require concentration.Hold person can win a battle.  Otto's irresistible dance can win a battle.  Slow can win a battle.  I just don't consider these the best options compared to the competition.</blockquote>