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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 6769543" data-attributes="member: 12731"><p>So, what would this mean? Casting a full spell and getting a full attack routine (one attack until level six; then two)?</p><p></p><p>Not harping on you Celtavian. Just getting impatient with the "bladesinger sucks" claim with no practical suggestions on how to make it work without it getting completely OP.</p><p></p><p>As I see it, as soon as you add "gets to take the Attack action each round" you no longer get to cast a full spell each round.</p><p></p><p>So, before letting disappointment get to us; we must first define what bladesinging can mean in the 5E framework. </p><p></p><p>Attack plus Cantrip</p><p>Spell plus... what?</p><p></p><p>Otherwise we're down the path of increasingly convolute ways to keep the power under control. "Smiting" is one, though personally I would not think a Wizard would want to waste away her slots on piddly damage.</p><p></p><p>An elaborate system that says "if you cast a spell at least M levels below your capacity, you can make one sword attack as a bonus action; if you cast a spell at least N levels below your capacity, you can make a full sword attack as a bonus action". Example: at level 10 you can cast level 5 spells. If you use a level three slot, you get to bladesing one attack. If you use a level two slot, you get to bladesing fully (two attacks).</p><p></p><p>In this case getting three bladesing attacks would require you to be level 18 casting level one spells. Eleven fighter levels for the three attacks; then seven Bladesinger levels to gain level four slots (N=3 here). Hmmm. It already sounds like way too much work for very little benefit.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 6769543, member: 12731"] So, what would this mean? Casting a full spell and getting a full attack routine (one attack until level six; then two)? Not harping on you Celtavian. Just getting impatient with the "bladesinger sucks" claim with no practical suggestions on how to make it work without it getting completely OP. As I see it, as soon as you add "gets to take the Attack action each round" you no longer get to cast a full spell each round. So, before letting disappointment get to us; we must first define what bladesinging can mean in the 5E framework. Attack plus Cantrip Spell plus... what? Otherwise we're down the path of increasingly convolute ways to keep the power under control. "Smiting" is one, though personally I would not think a Wizard would want to waste away her slots on piddly damage. An elaborate system that says "if you cast a spell at least M levels below your capacity, you can make one sword attack as a bonus action; if you cast a spell at least N levels below your capacity, you can make a full sword attack as a bonus action". Example: at level 10 you can cast level 5 spells. If you use a level three slot, you get to bladesing one attack. If you use a level two slot, you get to bladesing fully (two attacks). In this case getting three bladesing attacks would require you to be level 18 casting level one spells. Eleven fighter levels for the three attacks; then seven Bladesinger levels to gain level four slots (N=3 here). Hmmm. It already sounds like way too much work for very little benefit. [/QUOTE]
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