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<blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 7029985" data-attributes="member: 6787650"><p>I think you're looking at the statement too narrowly. When I do a party-optimization exercise, I do list all the roles I can think of and make note of which party members fulfill those roles and how many roles they fill. E.g.</p><p></p><p>Paladin of Devotion/Wild Sorcerer/Cthulock: Tank, summoner, counterspeller, ranged specialist, secondary healer, secondary artillery, tertiary scout, communicator/diplomat</p><p>Shadow Monk: Scout/intel specialist, disabler, secondary tank, secondary ranged specialist, communicator/diplomat</p><p>Bard/Cthulock: Healer, summoner, ranged specialist, counterspeller, secondary scout, communicator/diplomat</p><p>Necromancer/Cthulock: Summoner, ranged specialist, counterspeller, artillery, tertiary scout, communicator/diplomat</p><p></p><p>You can classify the functions/roles however you want, but the point is that you should think in terms of capabilities and not just classes. All wizards are not created identical and equal at all tasks. Even something as simple as whether you have Stealth from your Background, or whether you learned Invisibility, can make a big difference to your capabilities.</p><p></p><p>I'm inclined to cut some slack to treantmonk. It's a one-sentence example--he can be forgiven for not saying "We've got a [Tank, summoner, counterspeller, ranged specialist, secondary healer, secondary artillery, tertiary scout, communicator/diplomat], a [Scout/intel specialist, disabler, secondary tank, secondary ranged specialist, communicator/diplomat], and a [Healer, summoner, ranged specialist, counterspeller, secondary scout, communicator/diplomat], so it would be great if you would bring someone who can broaden our utility spell coverage and maybe supply some powerful front-liner summons when necessary while retaining some stealth capability for infiltration scenarios." That example, while realistic, is so complicated to parse that it would obscure the point he's trying to make.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FormerlyHemlock, post: 7029985, member: 6787650"] I think you're looking at the statement too narrowly. When I do a party-optimization exercise, I do list all the roles I can think of and make note of which party members fulfill those roles and how many roles they fill. E.g. Paladin of Devotion/Wild Sorcerer/Cthulock: Tank, summoner, counterspeller, ranged specialist, secondary healer, secondary artillery, tertiary scout, communicator/diplomat Shadow Monk: Scout/intel specialist, disabler, secondary tank, secondary ranged specialist, communicator/diplomat Bard/Cthulock: Healer, summoner, ranged specialist, counterspeller, secondary scout, communicator/diplomat Necromancer/Cthulock: Summoner, ranged specialist, counterspeller, artillery, tertiary scout, communicator/diplomat You can classify the functions/roles however you want, but the point is that you should think in terms of capabilities and not just classes. All wizards are not created identical and equal at all tasks. Even something as simple as whether you have Stealth from your Background, or whether you learned Invisibility, can make a big difference to your capabilities. I'm inclined to cut some slack to treantmonk. It's a one-sentence example--he can be forgiven for not saying "We've got a [Tank, summoner, counterspeller, ranged specialist, secondary healer, secondary artillery, tertiary scout, communicator/diplomat], a [Scout/intel specialist, disabler, secondary tank, secondary ranged specialist, communicator/diplomat], and a [Healer, summoner, ranged specialist, counterspeller, secondary scout, communicator/diplomat], so it would be great if you would bring someone who can broaden our utility spell coverage and maybe supply some powerful front-liner summons when necessary while retaining some stealth capability for infiltration scenarios." That example, while realistic, is so complicated to parse that it would obscure the point he's trying to make. [/QUOTE]
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