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<blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 7091242" data-attributes="member: 6787650"><p>It's better than that, because it's easier to penalize ability checks than saving throws, e.g. via Cutting Words--and besides, investigating still burns an action in one way or another.</p><p></p><p>For a 13th level PC going up against an Adult Red Dragon, if the PC has a DC of 18, then the Red Dragon's +3 to Int rolls gives it a 70% chance of failing the initial save, and then a 70% chance of failing the Int (Investigation) check, so a 49% chance of being fully affected (barring use of Legendary Resistance). That compares favorably with its 50% chance of making a Wisdom save (next weakest save) against e.g. Slow, and a 50% chance of the Slow wearing off in the next round. (49% vs. 25% chance to affect it for more than one round.) That 49% approaches 70% if there's a Lore Bard around with Cutting Words to penalize the dragon's Investigation check by d10.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FormerlyHemlock, post: 7091242, member: 6787650"] It's better than that, because it's easier to penalize ability checks than saving throws, e.g. via Cutting Words--and besides, investigating still burns an action in one way or another. For a 13th level PC going up against an Adult Red Dragon, if the PC has a DC of 18, then the Red Dragon's +3 to Int rolls gives it a 70% chance of failing the initial save, and then a 70% chance of failing the Int (Investigation) check, so a 49% chance of being fully affected (barring use of Legendary Resistance). That compares favorably with its 50% chance of making a Wisdom save (next weakest save) against e.g. Slow, and a 50% chance of the Slow wearing off in the next round. (49% vs. 25% chance to affect it for more than one round.) That 49% approaches 70% if there's a Lore Bard around with Cutting Words to penalize the dragon's Investigation check by d10. [/QUOTE]
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