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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Treantmonklvl20" data-source="post: 7266292" data-attributes="member: 55582">vonklaude:I asked:Your answer was: (I'm editorializing as your answer was wordy, I have attempted to keep your intended context, if I've failed to do so let me know)I originally thought you meant "solid" damage, but you meant "solid" ability to sustain melee.  This actually doesn't answer my question at all.  You can sustain melee without using a rapier.  Why use the rapier?I also can't help myself, but you have called one minute "all day"...no, 10 rounds.  Furthermore, you are assuming all damage requires a to hit roll, it doesn't, and your HP aren't good, and you've used your concentration to up your AC, not your resistances.(I need to comment here: Movement of an enemy may not be overly unusual, but movement alone does not provoke an attack of opportunity.  You are describing a situation where an opponent chooses to provoke an attack of opportunity in addition to moving by moving away from the Bladesinger without disengaging.  You are describing a situation which simply doesn't happen except in unusual circumstances.)Firstly, I reject comparison with a Sword and Board Battlemaster for two reasons.  First reason is that comparing a BS to a non-caster isn't really fair, as the BS ability to tap the versitility and power of spellcasting is not accounted for.  Secondly, a Battlemaster using sword and board is only partially a damage dealer, it is also knocking over opponents with shield, frightening them with menacing strike, etc.  As I mentioned before, Cleric makes a far more apt comparison as a Cleric (like a BS) is only doing damage, and also has the versatility of spellcasting to fall back on.That out of the way, words like "solid" and "comparable" are subjective terms.  I'm about to put them to the test.Let's take a few snapshots: levels 5, 10 and 15 and see how the BS shows "solid" damage and "comparable" damage. Obviously, opponent AC and saving throws vary and this will impact results.  I'm going to give a base 60% chance of hitting or landing a spell with a 16 ability score at level 5, 18 at level 10, and 20 at level 15.I will also set a baseline.  This will be done by statting out a REAL damage dealer - a character focused on doing damage, just to see what the upper ceiling is.Just to keep the post from becoming too long (and because I can space it out between dinner etc), I will do each level comparison in a different post.  I should get them all up today.</blockquote>

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