Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
NOW LIVE! Today's the day you meet your new best friend. You don’t have to leave Wolfy behind... In 'Pets & Sidekicks' your companions level up with you!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Treantmonk's Guide to Wizards 5e
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Treantmonklvl20" data-source="post: 7464351" data-attributes="member: 55582"><p>Good catch, I'll make an edit. I meant level 10.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>To some extent, it seems like a disagreement over which tastes worse, lima beans or liver. They are both bad. The reason I think Power Surge is a slight bit better is flexibility. Potent Cantrip is only providing damage if we assume that: </p><p>1: You are casting a save or take damage cantrip in combat</p><p>2: The enemy fails their save</p><p>3: This happens multiple times per short rest</p><p>Even then, which battles are you casting cantrips? I expect the easy battles. These are the battles where that damage is less important. When is the War Mage using power surge? I imagine vs the big tough baddie, where more damage is important. </p><p></p><p>Also, as we go up from level 6, we would expect to use less and less cantrips in battle (eventually we use none, or near none). Power surge on the other hand, will increase in damage as we go up in level, and we will always be able to use it.</p><p></p><p>Still, they both are pretty bad. Lima beans are worse though.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think Arcane Deflection is a great combat ability at low level. I'm not using counterspell at that point, and if I can save a spell slot (that shield would use, or absorb elements would use) then that's quite valuable. In addition, I might be out of spell slots entirely, in which case, this is a gift that keeps giving, with no downside at that point.</p><p></p><p>As levels increase, I think it becomes more and more a non-combat ability. Hit by a poison dart trap? Arcane deflection for +4 to poison save. That kind of thing. My 20th level wizard would never use this in combat....I don't cast cantrips at that level much at all, and being restricted to cantrips is not worth it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Treantmonklvl20, post: 7464351, member: 55582"] Good catch, I'll make an edit. I meant level 10. To some extent, it seems like a disagreement over which tastes worse, lima beans or liver. They are both bad. The reason I think Power Surge is a slight bit better is flexibility. Potent Cantrip is only providing damage if we assume that: 1: You are casting a save or take damage cantrip in combat 2: The enemy fails their save 3: This happens multiple times per short rest Even then, which battles are you casting cantrips? I expect the easy battles. These are the battles where that damage is less important. When is the War Mage using power surge? I imagine vs the big tough baddie, where more damage is important. Also, as we go up from level 6, we would expect to use less and less cantrips in battle (eventually we use none, or near none). Power surge on the other hand, will increase in damage as we go up in level, and we will always be able to use it. Still, they both are pretty bad. Lima beans are worse though. I think Arcane Deflection is a great combat ability at low level. I'm not using counterspell at that point, and if I can save a spell slot (that shield would use, or absorb elements would use) then that's quite valuable. In addition, I might be out of spell slots entirely, in which case, this is a gift that keeps giving, with no downside at that point. As levels increase, I think it becomes more and more a non-combat ability. Hit by a poison dart trap? Arcane deflection for +4 to poison save. That kind of thing. My 20th level wizard would never use this in combat....I don't cast cantrips at that level much at all, and being restricted to cantrips is not worth it. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Treantmonk's Guide to Wizards 5e
Top