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<blockquote data-quote="Treantmonklvl20" data-source="post: 7469965" data-attributes="member: 55582"><p>I have always made certain assumptions regarding "stationary" illusions. I assume that the illusion is stationary relative to something else.</p><p></p><p>Let's consider a hypothetical situation. My illusionist is on a road in a broken down cart. On that cart is a chest that is open, and that chest is empty. My illusionist casts a stationary illusion of coins in the chest. Now the chest appears like it's full of coins right?</p><p></p><p>Well that depends on relativity. The coins might drift away with the rotation of the earth, or the orbit of the earth, or the orbit of the sun around the centre of the galaxy in an outer spiral arm at 40,000 miles an hour...(insert Eric Idle singing here). Of course we could assume that the fantasy world we are in is completely stationary, and that there isn't even continental drift, so let's take this a step further.</p><p></p><p>Let's now assume that cart is on a ship. Does the gold drift away with the current? Does it drift in and out of the chest with each wave, does it drift away with the seabed below? Again, that depends on relativity.</p><p></p><p>Let's now assume the cart is driving down the road. Does the gold drift away with the road beneath? Does it bounce in and out of the chest with the bumps in the road?</p><p></p><p>Let's now assume we lift up the chest. Does the gold reman where the chest used to be? If so, do we refer to "used to be" as the spot in the cart? In the ship? On the road? In the universe?</p><p></p><p>The point I'm making is the gold MUST be stationary relative to something, and that something I would suggest should be defined when cast, and usually I would say it's implied when cast.</p><p></p><p>If you cast an illusion of a rock in a field, I would say the rock is stationary relative to the ground in the field.</p><p></p><p>If you cast an illusion of a crate on the deck of a ship, I would say the crate is stationary relative to the deck of the ship.</p><p></p><p>If you cast an illusion of a chest on a cart, then I would say the chest is stationary relative to the bed of the cart.</p><p></p><p>If you cast an illusion of coins in a chest, then I would say the coins are stationary relative to the chest.</p><p></p><p>If you cast an illusion of a gemstone on a hilt of a sword, then I would say the gemstone is stationary relative to the hilt it's "attached" to.</p><p></p><p>If you cast an illusion of a ring on a finger, then I would say the ring is stationary relative to the finger its on.</p><p></p><p>That said, these are assumptions I've made. I'm not sure if Jeremy Crawford has spoken on the matter. Either way, obviously my assumptions aren't as universal as I thought. I think I better bring this up with my DM and make sure we are on the same page. I see him this weekend for another campaign, I think I'll bring it up then.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Treantmonklvl20, post: 7469965, member: 55582"] I have always made certain assumptions regarding "stationary" illusions. I assume that the illusion is stationary relative to something else. Let's consider a hypothetical situation. My illusionist is on a road in a broken down cart. On that cart is a chest that is open, and that chest is empty. My illusionist casts a stationary illusion of coins in the chest. Now the chest appears like it's full of coins right? Well that depends on relativity. The coins might drift away with the rotation of the earth, or the orbit of the earth, or the orbit of the sun around the centre of the galaxy in an outer spiral arm at 40,000 miles an hour...(insert Eric Idle singing here). Of course we could assume that the fantasy world we are in is completely stationary, and that there isn't even continental drift, so let's take this a step further. Let's now assume that cart is on a ship. Does the gold drift away with the current? Does it drift in and out of the chest with each wave, does it drift away with the seabed below? Again, that depends on relativity. Let's now assume the cart is driving down the road. Does the gold drift away with the road beneath? Does it bounce in and out of the chest with the bumps in the road? Let's now assume we lift up the chest. Does the gold reman where the chest used to be? If so, do we refer to "used to be" as the spot in the cart? In the ship? On the road? In the universe? The point I'm making is the gold MUST be stationary relative to something, and that something I would suggest should be defined when cast, and usually I would say it's implied when cast. If you cast an illusion of a rock in a field, I would say the rock is stationary relative to the ground in the field. If you cast an illusion of a crate on the deck of a ship, I would say the crate is stationary relative to the deck of the ship. If you cast an illusion of a chest on a cart, then I would say the chest is stationary relative to the bed of the cart. If you cast an illusion of coins in a chest, then I would say the coins are stationary relative to the chest. If you cast an illusion of a gemstone on a hilt of a sword, then I would say the gemstone is stationary relative to the hilt it's "attached" to. If you cast an illusion of a ring on a finger, then I would say the ring is stationary relative to the finger its on. That said, these are assumptions I've made. I'm not sure if Jeremy Crawford has spoken on the matter. Either way, obviously my assumptions aren't as universal as I thought. I think I better bring this up with my DM and make sure we are on the same page. I see him this weekend for another campaign, I think I'll bring it up then. [/QUOTE]
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