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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SDOgre" data-source="post: 4265641" data-attributes="member: 67344">First I never meant my post to be a specific year by year, culture by culture break down of the medieval arms race.  It was meant to be general and why I have a problem with mixing "fencing" style fighting with medieval fighting.Saying that, the use of guns absolutely contributed to the decline of armor.  It was not the only factor.  The cost of a fully armored knight had become ridiculous by the 15th century.  And with the use of the peasant soldier, a much cheaper solution was to use the non-noble peasant, give him basic if any training, and throw him at your opponent in mass.  The knight became an inefficient use of gold.Guns, the peasant soldier, and economics put the heavily armored knight of out business.You could add other factors as well, including new battle tactics that took away much of the mounted knight's advantage in battle.Three were many reasons for the decline of the knight.  Sometimes in history we hear of one thing and cling to it because it's all we know.  Keep an open mind and ear and you'll continue to learn.</blockquote>