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<blockquote data-quote="ZansForCans" data-source="post: 1404375" data-attributes="member: 8059">There is no such restriction for unarmed attacks or even the unarmed strike. From the Combat section:&quot;Striking for damage with punches, kicks, and head butts...&quot;You don't need a free hand to attack with an unarmed strike. There is also no restriction for Trip or any other kind of unarmed attack. Even spells delivered by melee touch don't have to be done with the hand, unless the spell specifies (although remember you typically need one hand free to cast a spell with a somatic component). If you specifically need to use your hand for an unarmed attack, then, yes, you would have to free that hand up.Note that many of the other special attacks that aren't unarmed don't need a hand free either. Even grappling, which is not specifically classified as unarmed, does not specify you need a hand free. There is probably some DM table ruling for the specific situation here (circumstance penalties, etc.), but even with a sword and shield wielded, I could wrap you up in my arms--my hands don't need to necessarily be free. Of course once the grapple is joined, they are useless...As for the original question, there is no language in the feat stating you have to use the same thing you used to deliver the Trip. It simply says you get &quot;a melee attack&quot;. Contrast that wording with Cleave, which is explicit about what you can use for the extra attack.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ZansForCans, post: 1404375, member: 8059"] There is no such restriction for unarmed attacks or even the unarmed strike. From the Combat section: "Striking for damage with punches, kicks, and head butts..." You don't need a free hand to attack with an unarmed strike. There is also no restriction for Trip or any other kind of unarmed attack. Even spells delivered by melee touch don't have to be done with the hand, unless the spell specifies (although remember you typically need one hand free to cast a spell with a somatic component). If you specifically need to use your hand for an unarmed attack, then, yes, you would have to free that hand up. Note that many of the other special attacks that aren't unarmed don't need a hand free either. Even grappling, which is not specifically classified as unarmed, does not specify you need a hand free. There is probably some DM table ruling for the specific situation here (circumstance penalties, etc.), but even with a sword and shield wielded, I could wrap you up in my arms--my hands don't need to necessarily be free. Of course once the grapple is joined, they are useless... As for the original question, there is no language in the feat stating you have to use the same thing you used to deliver the Trip. It simply says you get "a melee attack". Contrast that wording with Cleave, which is explicit about what you can use for the extra attack. [/QUOTE]

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