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Message: <blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 5176481" data-attributes="member: 35909">And now for some reason, I feel the urge to ask about it.<a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/specialAttacks.htm#trip" target="_blank">Special Attacks :: d20srd.org</a>Look closely at the first sentence under Making a Trip Attack:"Make an unarmed melee touch attack against your target. This provokes an attack of opportunity from your target as normal for unarmed attacks."So then, by logic, anyone with Improved Unarmed Strike, including every single monk that exists, should be able to do unarmed trips without provoking an AoO.  But nowhere in Improved Unarmed strike nor the trip rules does it explicitly say this.  In fact, that they chose to leave it out when defining exactly how to avoid the AoO,"Avoiding Attacks of OpportunityIf you have the Improved Trip feat, or if you are tripping with a weapon (see below), you don’t provoke an attack of opportunity for making a trip attack."the writers basically enshrine as RAW that IUS does nothing to help you.  This is one of those largely-inconsequential-yet-so-mind-bogglingly-stupid-that-I-can't-stop-thinking-about-it rules to me.  I have NEVER been in a group (to my knowledge, it never actually came up with some DMs) where a more sensible ruling was used.  It seems pretty accepted IME that you need a trip weapon or Improved Trip to avoid the AoO.So, I just want to know why.  Make it make sense to me that kicking someone in the knee for damage is threatening enough (with IUS, of course) to not provoke, yet kicking someone in the knee so they fall off-balance and hit the ground is not.  Someone.  Anyone.</blockquote>

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