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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Deset Gled" data-source="post: 2197487" data-attributes="member: 7808">Well, for starters, a whip doesn't threaten, so you can't make an AoO with a whip.  Also, it's impossible to get an AoO with two weapons.  You only get one attack from a AoO, and thus can only use one weapon.With 18 str (+4 mod), Improved Trip (+4) he would indeed have a +8 to trip.  This will be difficult to overcome, but it's unlikely that it will win every time against a normal fighter.Also, when you do make an AoO against someone for standing up (which, as I said before, you can't do with a whip), you cannot trip the target again.  The AoO occurs immediately before the action that triggers it (standing up), so when the AoO happens, the target is still prone (and not subject to trips).Of course, shilsen beat me to most of this.</blockquote>