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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Squire James" data-source="post: 314818" data-attributes="member: 548">As a DM who has to take high-level gaming into account, I don't allow "self-stacking" the metamagic feats unless the caster actually took the feat more than once.  For instance, the Twin Spell feat is almost completely useless if you allow someone to "double-empower" a spell with only the Empower Spell feat.Furthermore, think of the Wizard 21 (or Wizard 7/ Incantrix 10 if you like) who has access to Improved Metamagic.  He casts an Empowered x4 Cone of Cold.  That's 45d6 damage.  Compare this to Meteor Swarm, a "normal" 9th level spell.  See the imbalance?  My thought on it is that this guy should only be able to do it if he actually took the Empower Spell feat 4 times.Boccob (and his level 20 spell slot) could tell you that infinite Empower Spell should be a Salient Divine Ability, not a feat.  I can see a god pummelling someone with an Empowered x15 Cone of Cold for 112d6 damage, but I don't think even epic characters should do it without Epic Spellcasting!EDIT - Of course, Boccob would probably just Empowered x12 Horrid Wilting for 150d8 non-elemental damage in most cases.</blockquote>