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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Taren Seeker" data-source="post: 374239" data-attributes="member: 615">Well, sort of. I did think that an unarmed trip attempt would cause an AoO. I've been convinced otherwise.Not useless, especially since a fighter can easily have access to a weapon that allows a trip. Even if there was an AoO, it doesn't make it useless. Knockdown is a special case and not relevant to the discussion. Knockdown doesn't even use a touch attack. You're right that in this case, the force of the blow causes the trip. That's why it's a feat.This is not supported in the item description of any axe. A dwarf may not want to use his foot, but may try to grab his opponent's leg or grab his belt and jerk him off balance. Trip attacks can be envisioned as some type of judo throw where they grab the lapel of the opponent and spin him to the ground.</blockquote>