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<blockquote data-quote="Caliban" data-source="post: 406032" data-attributes="member: 284">Yes there is.&nbsp; I pointed it out to you. There is every reason.&nbsp; Just like with spells, if it's not in the weapon description (or in the general rules that govern it's use), it's not a capablitly of the weapon. Only if you choose to ignore the context of the passages in the weapons descriptions.&nbsp;&nbsp; What's more, this has been confirmed by the sage. I've examined the text in the PHB from every viewpoint I can manage, and this is the only explanation that is consistent with the PHB.&nbsp;&nbsp; It may not be close enough to reality to suit you, but there are several parts of the combat system that are only vaguely related to reality.&nbsp; (Armor for example.)Seriously.You can also use this weapon to make trip attacks.&nbsp;&nbsp; There is no reason for that statement, unless you cannot normally make trip attacks with a weapon.&nbsp; &quot;Excess verbiage&quot; doesn't cut it. The guisarme states that you can make trips attack with it because of the way it's constructed.&nbsp;&nbsp; This indicates that normally weapons are not constructed in a way that allows trip attacks.Therefore: The Trip attack in the combat section is unarmed by default.&nbsp;&nbsp; Certain weapons in the equipment sectioin allow you to use the Trip attack with them, because they explicitly say so. *shrug*&nbsp; I'm sorry Hong.&nbsp;&nbsp; The core rules simply don't handle it the way you think it should be handled.&nbsp;&nbsp; Just house rule it and move on.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Caliban, post: 406032, member: 284"] Yes there is. I pointed it out to you. [b][/b] There is every reason. Just like with spells, if it's not in the weapon description (or in the general rules that govern it's use), it's not a capablitly of the weapon. [b][/b] Only if you choose to ignore the context of the passages in the weapons descriptions. What's more, this has been confirmed by the sage. I've examined the text in the PHB from every viewpoint I can manage, and this is the only explanation that is consistent with the PHB. It may not be close enough to reality to suit you, but there are several parts of the combat system that are only vaguely related to reality. (Armor for example.) Seriously. [b]You can also use this weapon to make trip attacks.[/b] There is no reason for that statement, unless you cannot normally make trip attacks with a weapon. "Excess verbiage" doesn't cut it. The guisarme states that you can make trips attack with it because of the way it's constructed. This indicates that normally weapons are not constructed in a way that allows trip attacks. Therefore: The Trip attack in the combat section is unarmed by default. Certain weapons in the equipment sectioin allow you to use the Trip attack with them, because they explicitly say so. [b][/B] *shrug* I'm sorry Hong. The core rules simply don't handle it the way you think it should be handled. Just house rule it and move on. [/QUOTE]

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