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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 408902" data-attributes="member: 5889">I disagree with Hong that almost all weapons can be used to trip, while it might seem silly that certain weapons cannot be used to trip with, such as a staff, its even sillier to fix that by saying that all weapons can be used to trip with.However, I do agree that if your making a trip attack with an unarmed strike that should provoke an AOO. MY attack provokes an AOO, but just trying to grap him doesn't? That's just plain silly. I believe the specifics of saying that a grapple (which also requires a touch attack) provokes an AOO means that there isn't a way to avoid that AOO, unless there's a feat that specifically says you can, like with improved disarm for disarm attempts.Changing an unarmed strike to unarmed touch doesn't change the fact that unless the user is proficient with his fists/legs/whatever, he is open to the enemy. So while a monk or a person with improved unarmed strike could trip this way normally, others would have an AOO.</blockquote>