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<blockquote data-quote="Aldarc" data-source="post: 8067290" data-attributes="member: 5142"><p>I own both books. I have watched a bit of Critical Role, though I did not find it my thing. I mostly have talked about it with my gaming friends who enjoy it.</p><p></p><p>Seems like a rude response to someone saying that the similarities that the two settings are diverging in the popular consciousnesses. But so far your contributions in this thread have been mostly peeing in everyone's cereal who likes the Nentir Vale setting so you can push Exandria by claiming that the Nentir Vale is redundant.</p><p></p><p>This latter point is why I am resistant against just equivocating between the settings like [USER=6780330]@Parmandur[/USER] is trying to do.</p><p></p><p>I would not mind, FWIW, putting Exandria in a shared multiverse with the Nentir Vale/Nerath, much as I would put a lot of settings that share the Great Wheel into a related multiverse. But IMHO, the Nentir Vale has a different tone as a setting than Exandria. Exandria shares some of the same beats and characters as the Vale, only in so far as the fact that it started as a 4e homebrew setting. However, the "feel" of Exandria seems more rooted in Matt Mercer's gaming history with Dragonlance and Forgotten Realms. The Nentir Vale, IMHO, seems rooted in Greyhawk (and Elsir Vale from Red Hand of Doom, which was almost the proto-Nentir Vale).</p><p></p><p>Hot off the presses: "Dude who confessed not to be familiar with the Nentir Vale setting lore beyond the minimalist implied setting of the core books can't tell the difference between the lore of the gods in Nentir Vale and Exandria." </p><p></p><p>You know I can't tell the difference between the United States and Canada. They both speak predominately English on the North American continent and were started as British (with some intermingled French) colonies. And all those Spanish-speaking countries to the south of that? Practically identical. I guess they are all the same settings. Just like Austria and Germany.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aldarc, post: 8067290, member: 5142"] I own both books. I have watched a bit of Critical Role, though I did not find it my thing. I mostly have talked about it with my gaming friends who enjoy it. Seems like a rude response to someone saying that the similarities that the two settings are diverging in the popular consciousnesses. But so far your contributions in this thread have been mostly peeing in everyone's cereal who likes the Nentir Vale setting so you can push Exandria by claiming that the Nentir Vale is redundant. This latter point is why I am resistant against just equivocating between the settings like [USER=6780330]@Parmandur[/USER] is trying to do. I would not mind, FWIW, putting Exandria in a shared multiverse with the Nentir Vale/Nerath, much as I would put a lot of settings that share the Great Wheel into a related multiverse. But IMHO, the Nentir Vale has a different tone as a setting than Exandria. Exandria shares some of the same beats and characters as the Vale, only in so far as the fact that it started as a 4e homebrew setting. However, the "feel" of Exandria seems more rooted in Matt Mercer's gaming history with Dragonlance and Forgotten Realms. The Nentir Vale, IMHO, seems rooted in Greyhawk (and Elsir Vale from Red Hand of Doom, which was almost the proto-Nentir Vale). Hot off the presses: "Dude who confessed not to be familiar with the Nentir Vale setting lore beyond the minimalist implied setting of the core books can't tell the difference between the lore of the gods in Nentir Vale and Exandria." You know I can't tell the difference between the United States and Canada. They both speak predominately English on the North American continent and were started as British (with some intermingled French) colonies. And all those Spanish-speaking countries to the south of that? Practically identical. I guess they are all the same settings. Just like Austria and Germany. [/QUOTE]
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