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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5379868" data-attributes="member: 22779">Meh, this is a trend that's existed for pretty much as long as we've been able to communicate.&nbsp; Classifying and categorizing is a basic reaction to any complex system.&nbsp; The problem is thinking that classifying will always be a perfect fit and that all things must fit within a given classification and thus cannot be in two different classes at the same time.There's nothing wrong with a trope in and of itself.&nbsp; And I don't think anyone is claiming that there is.The problem comes when the tropes become so cliche or restrictive that they harm the experience.&nbsp; Thus the trope of &quot;All non magical characters cannot be fantastic&quot; is one that people do have problems with.&nbsp; People want non magical characters that are fantastic.&nbsp; And then, you have the debate on what actually constitutes fantastic.&nbsp; If someone is crucified, hung out to dry for a day or two, then cut down roughly and stuck on a horse to hard gallop for several hours and suffers no permanent damage, is that fantastic or not?&nbsp; Is being able to handle the One Ring without temptation for months or even years fantastic or not?&nbsp; On and on.&nbsp; And it does get hard to tell the difference sometimes.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 5379868, member: 22779"] Meh, this is a trend that's existed for pretty much as long as we've been able to communicate. Classifying and categorizing is a basic reaction to any complex system. The problem is thinking that classifying will always be a perfect fit and that all things must fit within a given classification and thus cannot be in two different classes at the same time. There's nothing wrong with a trope in and of itself. And I don't think anyone is claiming that there is. The problem comes when the tropes become so cliche or restrictive that they harm the experience. Thus the trope of "All non magical characters cannot be fantastic" is one that people do have problems with. People want non magical characters that are fantastic. And then, you have the debate on what actually constitutes fantastic. If someone is crucified, hung out to dry for a day or two, then cut down roughly and stuck on a horse to hard gallop for several hours and suffers no permanent damage, is that fantastic or not? Is being able to handle the One Ring without temptation for months or even years fantastic or not? On and on. And it does get hard to tell the difference sometimes. [/QUOTE]

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