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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MoxieFu" data-source="post: 5381548" data-attributes="member: 41849">I am not going to get into a pedantic line-by-line argument where we strips sentences out of their contexts. I am not saying that A is always true and that B is never true. I am not standing on one extreme side of an argument and claiming all other arguments to be the opposite extreme. What I am saying is that Yes, magic is powerful. But that's the way I LIKE it in my games. IMHO YMMV TT&LNI. But even if magic IS powerful, it does have limitations. It is up to the DM to enforce those limitations. If they don't, then characters using magic can run amuck. If a DM wanted to, he could really screwover the spell casters. I've seen it happen and I'm glad I wasn't playing the wizard in that game. Characters shouldn't have to plan for contingencies upon contingencies upon contingencies. They should just exercise a reasonable amount of preparation. And everybody's interpretations of "reasonable" is not the same.  But at the same time the players shouldn't assume that they will always have all the time and money and opportunity to do what they plan. And If a DM lets them do that, then he is asking for trouble.</blockquote>