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<blockquote data-quote="Sandain" data-source="post: 1861247" data-attributes="member: 19306"><p>Hello,</p><p></p><p>I would have Achilles as being a half-Celestial 7th level fighter. His feats would include Dodge, Mobility, and Spring attack.</p><p></p><p>He would have some DR due to being dipped in the magic water as a baby.</p><p></p><p>He does not need any new rules to explain how he can carve through armies. With non magical equipment and his high dex he gets an AC of 22-23. The mooks with a BaB or +1 or 2 wont be able to hit him. His high Dex is what makes him so deadly in the ancient greek environment.</p><p></p><p>His Str and weapon spec explains how he kills so cleanly and quickly. Also HP in D&D is not a reflection on how much blood you can bleed out - its a measure of resilience. So Achilles can take weapons hits and lose HP - but that doesnt mean he actually recieves a visible wound.</p><p></p><p>In the Achilles vs Hector fight I imagine it went like this;</p><p>Dm: ok rol initiative</p><p>Achilles: I got a 20 I go first. I activate Expertise and attack</p><p>Hector: I activate Expertise and attack</p><p>10 rounds later....</p><p>Dm: ok Hector your at 10 hp, the last hit opened a nasty cut in your leg</p><p>Achilles: Yeah this half celestial template and high dex rocks!</p><p>Hector: Munchkin!</p><p></p><p>Now, if you wear a basic soldier, and a hero of reknown stepped onto the field - knowing that you all face certain death, would you run? if half your army ran - or stay and die?</p><p></p><p>Why do people need to invent rules that can be explained with common sense? Why do hero's have to be over 20th level to be Epic? I believe the stats I presented are all thats required, and 7th level with a template is Epic in that environment.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sandain, post: 1861247, member: 19306"] Hello, I would have Achilles as being a half-Celestial 7th level fighter. His feats would include Dodge, Mobility, and Spring attack. He would have some DR due to being dipped in the magic water as a baby. He does not need any new rules to explain how he can carve through armies. With non magical equipment and his high dex he gets an AC of 22-23. The mooks with a BaB or +1 or 2 wont be able to hit him. His high Dex is what makes him so deadly in the ancient greek environment. His Str and weapon spec explains how he kills so cleanly and quickly. Also HP in D&D is not a reflection on how much blood you can bleed out - its a measure of resilience. So Achilles can take weapons hits and lose HP - but that doesnt mean he actually recieves a visible wound. In the Achilles vs Hector fight I imagine it went like this; Dm: ok rol initiative Achilles: I got a 20 I go first. I activate Expertise and attack Hector: I activate Expertise and attack 10 rounds later.... Dm: ok Hector your at 10 hp, the last hit opened a nasty cut in your leg Achilles: Yeah this half celestial template and high dex rocks! Hector: Munchkin! Now, if you wear a basic soldier, and a hero of reknown stepped onto the field - knowing that you all face certain death, would you run? if half your army ran - or stay and die? Why do people need to invent rules that can be explained with common sense? Why do hero's have to be over 20th level to be Epic? I believe the stats I presented are all thats required, and 7th level with a template is Epic in that environment. [/QUOTE]
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