Ogrork the Mighty
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The table lists the bonus as +3 but the description lists it as +2. Which is correct?
True Believer feat?
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According to the primary sources rule, the feat description takes precedence over a table or list.
However, I prefer to use the +3 bonus in the game I DM.
However, I prefer to use the +3 bonus in the game I DM.
My group houseruled the feat to grant the +2 bonus, and made it so that when the feat was used, if the roll was a natural 1, it would negate the auto-fail. Your save would still have to be high enough to beat the DC despite the whopping roll of a 1. The group didn't figure this as being as being overpowered, and it never actually came up throughout the campaign, as no one with the feat rolled any 's on saves. The DM changed the feat to encourage us to take it, because he wanted to have artifacts as an option, though they never came up, either. So, it didn't really make the feat any more useful, it really just kinda made us feel better about taking a kinda underpowered feat.
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The drawback of this feat is that you have to choose to use it before you roll. With the +2, you could still conceivably fail (roll a 1, for instance). I don't much like feats you have to choose to use before you roll when you only get them once per day.
Consider that Great Fortitude, Iron Will and Lightning Reflexes each give you a +2 bonus to every such save you make.
I'd prefer instead if True Believer let you reroll one save per day (along the lines of Danger Sense, from Complete Adventurer) or something that lets you add 1d6 to a saving throw once per day (along the lines of Heroic Destiny, from Races of Destiny).
On the other hand, I'd let the +2 bonus stand if you could decide to add the bonus after making the roll.
Consider that Great Fortitude, Iron Will and Lightning Reflexes each give you a +2 bonus to every such save you make.
I'd prefer instead if True Believer let you reroll one save per day (along the lines of Danger Sense, from Complete Adventurer) or something that lets you add 1d6 to a saving throw once per day (along the lines of Heroic Destiny, from Races of Destiny).
On the other hand, I'd let the +2 bonus stand if you could decide to add the bonus after making the roll.
Ogrork the Mighty
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IMC, I give PCs the option of calling the feat's use before the roll and gaining a +3 bonus, or calling it after the roll but only gaining a +2 bonus.
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That's a decent compromise. It takes into account most of my concerns about the power and utility of the feat.
Second to that. As by numbers it is quite wortless feat. +2 to one save and decided before roll. Duh. I am just hoping for that DM would but some relics into game. That would make the feat little better because then spell sacrifice is not needed to use it. Another thing I am hoping that my current char wouldn't die before going to Pious Templarrowport said:I am just bitter that I had to take it as a prereq for Pious Templar...
- after all I took that True Believer as 1.st level feat (made 4.th level cleric)
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