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<blockquote data-quote="HRSegovia" data-source="post: 6511431" data-attributes="member: 99950"><p>It seems what you've done is convoluted the same system and what you'll wind-up with is the exact same thing - spellslinging back and forth - but on a longer scale. For this test to go well, you need more than the generic holodeck room with two wizards and expand it to an environment that encourages clever use of lower level spells. This is the true test of a wizard and the purpose of attempting to defeat a higher level wizard. You used Saruman and Gandalf as an example, but one did not ourtight defeat the other with spells. The environment played the greater role. Same goes for Lo Pan and Egg Shen - spellslinging was just games. Raistlin defeated Fistantdantilus with a sleight-of-hand. Avatar beat Blackwolf with a single pistol shot. The point is: is a wizard in pursuit of power and depending on powerful spells (greed and power), or is he wise and clever enough to look at the bigger picture (wisdom and sensitivity).</p><p></p><p>This system as you put it depends a lot on luck and does not test whether or not a wizard can be greater than the sum of his magic.</p><p></p><p>However, on the other hand, not everyone can pass the test as it should be. No matter how many clues and clever devices you put in there, many players cannot see past the spell list and will find the battle unwinnable (and often blame you for placing them in impossible situations). It's a thin line to tread, but this is a pivoting moment in the character's life and must be carefully crafted and not left to chance such as dice rolls.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HRSegovia, post: 6511431, member: 99950"] It seems what you've done is convoluted the same system and what you'll wind-up with is the exact same thing - spellslinging back and forth - but on a longer scale. For this test to go well, you need more than the generic holodeck room with two wizards and expand it to an environment that encourages clever use of lower level spells. This is the true test of a wizard and the purpose of attempting to defeat a higher level wizard. You used Saruman and Gandalf as an example, but one did not ourtight defeat the other with spells. The environment played the greater role. Same goes for Lo Pan and Egg Shen - spellslinging was just games. Raistlin defeated Fistantdantilus with a sleight-of-hand. Avatar beat Blackwolf with a single pistol shot. The point is: is a wizard in pursuit of power and depending on powerful spells (greed and power), or is he wise and clever enough to look at the bigger picture (wisdom and sensitivity). This system as you put it depends a lot on luck and does not test whether or not a wizard can be greater than the sum of his magic. However, on the other hand, not everyone can pass the test as it should be. No matter how many clues and clever devices you put in there, many players cannot see past the spell list and will find the battle unwinnable (and often blame you for placing them in impossible situations). It's a thin line to tread, but this is a pivoting moment in the character's life and must be carefully crafted and not left to chance such as dice rolls. [/QUOTE]
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