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Message: <blockquote data-quote="eamon" data-source="post: 5932553" data-attributes="member: 51942">I see the point.  But your argument that its odd that a blow can't deal "true" damage" is just business as usual: I'm saying it's not a basis on which to distinguish a plain hitpoint system from one that explicitly differentiates between wounding and nonwounding points.The skewering by a spear is more problematic simply because its much more common.  Also, it's fairly easy to imagine blocking or deflecting a spear to a less lethal spot might still hurt (i.e. combat by grinding down resources), whereas it's not so clear what those resources would be vs. a medusa's glare. In the playtest, it's simply completely avoidable, which is reasonable enough.  I think the save-or-dies are best handled on a case by case basis.  The occasional save or lose is probably fine; just not most combats.Sure, sure, I'm not trying to advocate for grind (god forbid).  But if the DM says the party encounters and Orc band and rolls behind his screen and informs them 2 of their members are dead isn't exciting either.  Some choices by the PC's must matter, so that means a certain minimum length, and that means plain attacks can't be save-or-die.</blockquote>